28 Dec r 1806

Scotch Reform To L d Grenville

Adoplusida?[?] 1 3

Resolut. 13

Interloct[?] Unapplicable

There are particular cases: and supposing the Resolution to be in these respects too extensive, its /the/ over-amplitude might be corrected by apposite exceptions.

The /But/ proposed prohibition of Appeals against Interlocutory Judgments assumes and supposes a clear and invariable line of distinction in existence drawn between interlocutory judgments and final ones. Does /Exists then/ any such law exist my Lord? I do not mean in form, but in effect? Is is altogether clear tha neither precedent nor analogy can afford either warrant or plausible [...?] for framing /pronouncing/ judgments that shall be interlocutory in form, final in effect? Take almost any final judgment at random, is ther /can there be/ any difficulty, in framing a judgment, which shall /being/ be in all other respects the same, with the single difference of its being declared to be provisional only, reserving to another time the definitive disposal of the matter /subject matter/ in dispute till another time? This interlocutory judgment, (for under that appellation surely it could come,) this interlocutory judgment, for so long as it continues unmodified /unaltered/, produces the effect of a final one. But by whom is it to be altered? /But who is there to alter it?/ The Court below will not: and the Court above, the House of Lords, this Resolution being carried into act, can not.
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