4 July 1811 14 V. ad Juperbriam

Fallacies 9 or 6 Ch.

As to the impossibility of the supposed results, and thence the absurdity of the enterprize, the considerations by which it is rendered it should seem sufficiently evident are as follows.

The impossibility of perpetuity in the physical /strict sense/ is not worth insisting on - He /of him/ who on behalf of any proposed law would be more desirous of persuading himself that it will be, and /as well as/ others that it ought to be perpetual, the expectations at least howsoever it may be with his wishes will scarcely extend themselves to the extreme end of time. So long as the community continues a community and the sovereignty a sovereignty acting as such over that same community beyond the extent of time marked out by these expression he will hardly insist upon carrying his view.
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