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8 May 1811 Influence P.I
8 May 1811

Influence

P.I

Ch. 2. J.B.s Propositions

11

{For preventing the exercise of that portion of the mass of influence}

25 Of that portion of the influence which is being composed of the influence on and over will, is exercised by the Crown i.e. by the King or by any Minister on and over the Member /any Member/ of the House of Commons /either House of Parliament/ or any one of them the exercise is not in so far as exercised on them in such their capacity /character/ in any instance salutary: in the same case it is not, in so far as it is efficient, other than /anti-constitutional, as well as/ pernicious.

26. But in so far as though exercised it is inefficient, it is though not salutary, innoxious: and in so far as the exercise of it on and over a number of Members of the House of Commons is a necessary /an unavoidable/ and inseparable result of the exercise of the influence and power of the Crown over the /in the case of/ Members of the administrative body, it does-not threaten to be efficient to any considerable degree, not to such a degree as to be in a preponderant degree noxious.
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