1819 June 16

To Erskine

Lett. 7. Whigs AntiReformists

§.5. Pos. 4. Whig Excellence

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Thieves hate Gass-lights

Burke hated Metaphysics.

After all /Meantime/ What is a Whig? Who have been? who are? who have been? the Whigs? The existence of an excellent body of men in such sort and degree as to have always been actuated by this generous desire this desire of reform and self-sacrifice, who have been the individuals of which from time to time it has been composed? To my argument /notions/ the question is a matter of indifference. I say no creature born of woman could ever have entertained any such desire. this being granted the questions what a Whig is and of what individuals compose the body called the body of the Whigs is composed are questions /matters/ of indifference. /nothing to the purpose./ though[?] I have been saying and I think proving that the Whigs have had no desire of reform the Whigs have had no desire to sacrifice their suits[?] But to Your Lordship /Lordships argument/ these are vital questions. On each occasion where confidence is to be reposed, at a parliamentary Election for example, the question is in what individuals is the confidence /it/ to be reposed. Suppose M r Lamb for example coming a second time on the Hustings and saying I am a Whig: I am a Whig as such I am entitled to your confidence. Then comes the question how do you know /know you/ that you are a Whig? if it be worth knowing, how are we to know it? Have you any thing to shew for it? Have you any such thing as a register book in which the names of all Whigs have been entered? Do you know D r Galt[?]? Has he discovered an organ /for you an appropriate organ/ of Whiggism a protuberance that may be seen or felt growing out of your skulls? or is it no other than the general organ of disinterestedness, correspondent and opposite to the organ of rapacity, for the discovery of which we are so much in his debt /which we are one of the discoveries for which we are his debtors?/
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    §.5. Position 4. By the Whig theory of Whig excellence the desire is not proved.

    Had any other set of men been the set in question, the task of this letter had been already at an end.

    But the set of men in question are the Whigs: and in relation to this set Your Lordship it seems has a theory. To be spoken of, this theory, like every thing else, must have a name. Till Your Lordship shall have been pleased to furnish me with a letter, I will take the liberty of giving it one, and styling it The Theory of Whig Excellence.

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    My Lord, with submission excellence in this case is still open to dispute: authority is here silent. The Church indeed is excellent; the king most excellent: excellent and most excellent, as syllables are long and short, by authority: the Church excellent, by authority of advertisements published by the Members of the Upper House of Convocation: the King most excellent, as testified in and by the Liturgy, ordained by Act of Parliament. Convocation and Parliament are constituted authorities. But the Whigs of England who ever they are, are not yet constituted authorities. My Lord, when either Parliament or the Upper House of Convocation acknowledge this their assumed /supposed/ title, then will I acknowledge it. As it is, {I must dispute it as well as I am able} to the best of my poor ability, I must dispute it.
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    On this occasion I am really in distress. What it is I wish to produce is argument, fair and serious argument. I have neither endeavour nor desire to substitute ridicule. On this as on every occasion, I had rather […?] a man than deceive him, and many is the man whom for fear of deceiving him I have tried to bring it to view. But a claim such as this merely to state it – to state it in any way whatever – in the plainest and simplest garb that can be found for it is so the matter seems to me to cover /overwhelm/ it with ridicule.

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    1. On the part of a set of men in the situation in question any such desire as that of witnessing a change of the sort in question, and contributing towards it by a free sacrifice of the sort in question is in the nature of the case morally impossible. {Say for shortness – The Desire impossible.}

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