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[153a-043v2] System of Industry Houses
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System of Industry Houses. Collateral Uses.

II. Itinerary

1. Poor-Man's Inns

2. Poor Man's Stage Houses

To such as do require an escort, the expences will likewise be reduced in a very great degree: since the conductors, being stationed at the several Industry Houses, will have no Public-House Charges to defray. The time of the Conductor will be the only charge: & this need cost very little, since it will be extraordinary, if the whole establishment does not afford one inmate capable of executing such a trust.

Female

& those the London prices, of the present winder: being an allowance, in point of nutrition evidently much greater, & probably at least twice as great, as the average of the allowance at which Prisoners have been actually kept for many years, in remarkably good health, at the Penitentiary House at Wymondham. See account of the regimen of that House in the Annual Register for 1788 -

The value of the work I set down at 1 s a day: being no more than the lowest wages of the commonest day labour, any where in England.

On this footing, the average value of a man's daily earnings, in one of the Houses in question, in the instance of adults of the male sex (being in a state of ordinary health & strength & not disabled by age) may be stated at four times the daily expence of his food, leaving a clear surplus of 9 d.

The value of the earnings of a grown person of the female sex, I set down at 6 d: half the value of that of a grown person of the male sex. The valuation seems rather low than high, if applied to such works of the laborious kind, as are exercised in common by both sexes: & in the instance of the sedentary employment of spinning, the average earnings of 112 children, candidates for premium was 5 d2. See Account of the Society for the promotion of Industry in Lindsey district - 3 Edition: no date, but posterior to 1789-p89 - The children, it is true, were all candidates for premiums - But the average of their wages (most of them females) was but 11 years 11 months.
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    (a) The degree of economy with which this business may be carried on depends, on one hand, on the expense for which a man can be maintained in full health and strength for a day, on the other hand on the value of the work which a man of the working class, being in a state of ordinary health and strength, can without hardship be made to perform in the same compass of time. The expense I state at 3 d: grounding the estimate on the experiments and observations made by [...?] Romford in his 3 [...?] pay relative to the Poor (p.239), in which the expense of a days allowance of soup and bread consisting of 4lb 3oz is stated at 2 d:, computed according to the extraordinarily high prices and those the London prices of the present winter: being an allowance in point of nutrition evidently much greater and probably at least twice as great as the average of the allowance at which prisoners have been actually kept for many years, in remarkably good health at least, at the Penitentiary House at Wymondham, See Account of the regime of that House in the Annual Register for 1788.

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    On this footing, the average value of a man's daily earnings, in one of the Houses in question among adults of the male sex being in a state of ordinary health and strength and not disabled by age, may be stated at four times the daily expense of his food, leaving a clear surplus of 9 d. The value of the earnings of a grown person of the female sex, I set down at 6 d, half the value of that of a grown person of the male sex. The calculation seems rather low than high, if applied to such works of the laborious kind as are exercised in common by both sexes: and in the instance of the [...?] employment of spinning the average earnings of 112 children candidates for [...?] was 5 d2. See Account of the Society for the prevention of Industry in London District F Edition No date but [...?] to 1789.p.89. The children, it is true were all candidates for [...?]. But the average of their ages (most of them female) was but ll years, ll months.
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    In a certain Poor House the earnings of the inhabitants (such of them included as were employed in spinning) never amounted to so much (say) as 1 d a day upon an average. Be it so: & be it the same in a hundred Poor-houses. But in the year 1790 in the District of Lindsey in Lincolnshire, 112 children, chiefly females, being all that were tried, their ages not exceeding upon an average 11 years & ll months, earned for two months together, at spinning the sort of worsted called Jersey, each of them upon an average 52 a day: & as the rate had, for five years that the experiment had been tried, been upon the increase, beginning at 4 d, & this last of the five years had encreased from 5 d to 5 d2, the average age being the same, call it then in round numbers, for children of 12 years old 6 d: Under these circumstances would 1 d a day be a fair sample, of the rate of earnings that may be expected to be made by children of that age? - would even 3 d2 (the average between 1 d and 6 d)? - - No surely: 6 d, & not less than 6 d, is what ought to be set down as the least amount that may reasonably be expected, as far as the demand for that sort of work extends, from children of that age.

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    The mode of calculation by averages, would, on such an occasion, be equally discouraging and delusive. In a certain Poor house, the daily expence of diet has amounted (say) to 9 d a day: be it so: be it the same in a hundred Poorhouses. But under Count Romford's plan of management the diet of an equal number of persons having equal wants, and maintained in an equal degree of health and strength, amounted but to 2 d a day. Would 9 d be the fair sample of the expence? would even 5 d2 (the average) be a fair sample? - by no means: 2 d, and no more than 2 d is the true mark.

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