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Title: [13 Feb 1813 §.1 Part 4 + Church]

Description: 13 Feb 1813 §.1 Part 4 +

Church

Ch 6

1

Part 4.

nor not necessary to adoptive persuasion

§. II abstract fitness

Part 4. Grounds of persuasion — Persuasion indigenous and adoptive.

Part 4. Difference between indigenous persuasion, and adoptive d o

The Difference between

indigenous & adoptive

belief, is in some

measure experienced by everyone

Of the Between indigenous persuasion

and adoptive persuasion, no man to whom the difference

must not have been made more or less known, by

his own perception and experience

Of the difference between indigenous persuasion

and adoptive persuasion, no man to whom in

this view it has ever happened to look into his own

mind - - who has ever

happened with

this view to look

into his own mind.

no man who has not had frequent - not to

say continual, - perception and experience

Be the matter what it may — matter of fact

or proposition — a man's persuasion in relation to it is may

be termed indigenous or say native, where it in so far as without

regard to any persuasion

regard to any persuasion entertained or supposed to have

been entertained in relation to that same subject by any

other person in relation to that same subject, it is the result

of the consideration bestowed upon the matter within

the precincts of his own mind.

Be it the subject

facts - or proposition

persuasion may

be termed indigenous

when it

is formed without regard to

the persuasion

of others

Note (a)

(a) Rather indigenous than native. Of itself all that native

imports, is - born somewhere: what indigenous imports, is - born

in that very place; - viz. the very place in question.

(a)

Indigenous better than

native. - native

implies only birth.

indigenous birth in

that very place.

JB_005_202_001.xml

Title: [11 Feb 1813 p.1. Part 2. + 30 Church]

Description: 11 Feb 1813 p.1. Part 2. + 30

Church U.C.

1 p.1.

Part 2.

Persuasion affirmation belief - belief

to Truth a Doctrine.

§ 1.

Part 2. Persuasion - belief - disbelief: - faulting its intensity - how measured

1

Subject of persuasion

fact or proposition

The subject of persuasion is either this or that some

supposed matter of fact itself, or a proposition i.e. a form of words concerning some such matter of fact

bearing relation to and predicating existence or non-existence

to some such matter of fact.

2

Persuasion what

its subject 1. a fact

2. a proposition. (a)

By persuasion seems to be universally understood

an act of judgment — of the judicial faculty

of the mind — whereby some supposed matter of fact is

deemed to exist or not deemed to exist, or some proposition relative

to some matter of fact is deemed to be true or [deemed]

not to be true. (a)

(a) Note in another page

(a) Add Not to say that a

matter of fact if continually

to demand

and vice versa

3

Persuasion is belief

or disbelief - their

interconvertibility

Where, as above, the decision of the judgment is on the positive or say

the affirmative side, belief is the word most commonly employed

the word persuasion has most commonly for its

synonym the word belief; - where on the negative side,

the word disbelief. But, belief of a negative proposition,

being synonymous to disbelief of the corresponding affirmative

proposition, and disbelief of a negative synonymous to

belief of the corresponding affirmative, this interconvertibility

of terms and propositions of the positive cast with terms and

propositions of the negative cast will, to prevent confusion in

misconception, require to be kept in remembrance.

JB_005_216_001.xml

Title: [14 Feb 1813 Church Ch 0. 3]

Description: 14 Feb 1813

Church Ch 0.

3

Part 4 - judgment, adoptive

To indigenous belief

some conception

of the subject necessary.

Be the subject what it may To the formation of an indigenous persuasion

it is necessary that a man should have had some

conception, more or less distinct and vivid, of the in that same subject,

of its nature, if it be a matter of fact; of its import, if it be

a proposition.

to adoptive

. Yes, as to matter if the subject be

fact. But if

a proposition - no.

The believers confidence

in it will

be as his confidence

in the person of

whose persuasion

he regards it as the

expression.

On the other hand But to the formation of an adoptive persuasion

it is not necessary that a man should have had any present to his mind

so much as the slightest conception about the matter. If it be matter

of fact, yes: some little conception, how indistinct and faint

so ever, - is the subject of the persuasion is altogether

wanting: [having no subject the supposed persuasion

amounts to nothing.] If it be a proposition, no:

proportioned to his confidence in the person, of whose

persuasion he regards it as being containing the expression,

the persuasion is expressed being a determination,

will his own persuasion be.

To a demonstration

of La Place's in a language

which a man does not

understand, the belief

given by himself will be not

quite so intense as

if he understood & followed it up

but not much less

so as to practical

purposes, the nature

of the case as much

or more confidence.

Not understanding French and understanding or not understanding what has been brought to light in mathematics suppose a part mathematical

proposition put into my hand which I see thus

much and no more viz. that it is a mathematical

one and have received what to

me is sufficient assurance that it is a new one

and by La Place delivered of late as demonstrated

by himself, of the truth of the proposition

my persuasion I being competent to the subject - will

hardly be quite so intense as if understanding the language

I had followed up the demonstration and been satisfied

with it. Not altogether quite so intense: but for any practical

purpose, neither will it want much of anything, if being so:

the nature of the subject being in this case, such to warrant a greater measure

measure of confidence reliance

on the persuasion declared

by any person

to have been formed and

entertained in that same

subject than perhaps as it should have

in any other case.