13 Feb 1813 §.1 Part 4 +

Church

Ch 6

1

Part 4.

nor not necessary to adoptive persuasion

§. II abstract fitness

Part 4. Grounds of persuasion — Persuasion indigenous and adoptive.

Part 4. Difference between indigenous persuasion, and adoptive d o

The Difference between

indigenous & adoptive

belief, is in some

measure experienced by everyone

Of the Between indigenous persuasion

and adoptive persuasion, no man to whom the difference

must not have been made more or less known, by

his own perception and experience

Of the difference between indigenous persuasion

and adoptive persuasion, no man to whom in

this view it has ever happened to look into his own

mind - - who has ever

happened with

this view to look

into his own mind.

no man who has not had frequent - not to

say continual, - perception and experience

Be the matter what it may — matter of fact

or proposition — a man's persuasion in relation to it is may

be termed indigenous or say native, where it in so far as without

regard to any persuasion

regard to any persuasion entertained or supposed to have

been entertained in relation to that same subject by any

other person in relation to that same subject, it is the result

of the consideration bestowed upon the matter within

the precincts of his own mind.

Be it the subject

facts - or proposition

persuasion may

be termed indigenous

when it

is formed without regard to

the persuasion

of others

Note (a)

(a) Rather indigenous than native. Of itself all that native

imports, is - born somewhere: what indigenous imports, is - born

in that very place; - viz. the very place in question.

(a)

Indigenous better than

native. - native

implies only birth.

indigenous birth in

that very place.
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    the side opposite to the authoritative side will here and

    there have broken out:- indigenous persuasion, by which

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    have happened to it to have contracted for the opposite vice. To For rid

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    senses of the word

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