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1823 Jany: 30 Trip. H. to Q.A. ?.9 Objections
1823 Jany: 30 Trip. H. to Q.A. ?.9 Objections answered

On this occasion as on every other, whatever you do, you will have to give

/shew/ a justification of to /in the eyes of/ your legislature. In applying to

you for your concurrence becomes therefore my business to supply you with one,

and that an adequate one

Ordinarily, when by a desire of any kind, the subject of a State has been led to

make application to a foreign State for eventual support against the Sovereign

power of his State, complaint of grievous injury to himself has been made by

him, whereupon by the prospect of extending its power at the expence of the

supposed injurious government, the government so applied to has been engaged to

grant its support. Such in particular has been the course in that which is

become British India

In the present case there is nothing of this on either side I for my part have

no injury to complain of. I have no present ambition to gratify. On no throne is

it my desire to seat myself. The object of my desire /What I wish to see/ is © a

Commonwealth such as yours. If that can not be accomplished, then whatever comes

nearest to it Not yet is there any part that I would not consent to act © any

situation that I would not consent to fill, rather than that the deliverance

which I look to should not be accomplished. My wish in this particular is and

will continue to be to take the benefit of your advice. Scruple not to take me

at my word. My wish is © that in regard to the distribution of power, the

controul which public opinion has over our conduct /us/ consent may be as strong

as possible: and that therefore every thing that passes between us in relation

to this matter may be as public as the press can make it.

Such is the case on my part. Exactly of the same complection it is, I stand

assured, on your part. With or without the comfort and glory of giving the best

possible government to such extensive regions, in which nothing better than the

worst government has for so many hundred years been so much as known, what you

want is a station in which your Ships may ride in safety. Dominion to any

purpose beyond that © dominion with the cost of maintaining it with the matter

of corruption in the shape of patronage, you neither desire nor would accept of.

Your Citizens © Your Constituents © are too wise to suffer it.
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