11 May 1808

Ch.V. §.4.3.

I. Reasons

Ch.V. Advantage

§.4./3./ Jury independent

3. Advantage the 3 d. The Jury released from their dependance [on] the Judge.

1. In relation to a Jury Trial what seems to be desired is, and what it seems to be taken for granted will be - is, that whatsoever decision may come to be delivered in the name of the Jury - the decision, the verdict of the Jury, shall be an opinion framed in the minds of individuals of whom the Jury has been composed.

2. What does not seem to be desired - in Scotland at least, howsoever it may be in England - is that under the name of the Jury, any such decision should be pronounced which in truth has not been their decision, but the decision of the Judge.

3. So far as concerns the fixation of the sum of money to be paid by the defendant in the name of damages, no doubt but that within the compass of the Jury box the source of the decision, and in so far of the fate[?] of the parties, is always to be found: but as to the question whether any thing at all shall be paid under the name of damages - or any other shall be paid, that is among the questions which the decision of which depends in every case not upon the Jury but the Judge.

Upon the Judge it depends, as above, to take up or start a question of law out of any word he pleases: out of any word contained in the instrument of the demand call it declaration, call it indictment, call it information, and on the occasion of that word, to go into the enquiry concerning the import of any other word or words, wheresoever they may be to be found.
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