JB_107_168_002.xml

Title: [Police Report 3 Comparative expence]

Description: Police Report 3

Comparative expence of the first and second 6 years of the above period of 12 years

4 N.S. Wales Dividing the total period of 12 years into two

equal periods of 6 years each, Your Committee

proceed to give a statement of the comparative

expence of such two periods

First period of 6 years ending in 1791 inclusive

Totals of expence of these 6 first

years (as per d o Account)

337,449:7:1 1/2

Add half the total of travel Expence

during the whole 12 years d o 166,361:4:11 ÷ 2

83,180:12:5 1/2

420,629:19:7

Grand total -----------

Average Expence for year 420,629:19:7 ÷ 6

70,104:2:5.

Divide by half the average number

of convicts shipped off

the course of the whole

period of 12 years 2883 ÷ 2 = 1442

Annual expence per head convict during

this first period -------

£ s d

48:12:3 3/4

Second Period of 6 years ending in 1797 inclusive

Totals of expence of these 6 last

years as per d o account ---

£ s d

533,439:6:7 1/4

Add half the total of travel Expence

during the whole 12 years

as above 166,361:4 s:11 d ./. 2 =

83,180:12:5 1/4

Grand total ---------

616,619:19:0 1/2

Average expence per year

of this second period (616,619:19:0 1/2 ÷ 6)

102,769:19:10

Divide by half of the whole

number of convicts shipped off

in the course of the whole 12

years as before (5765 ÷ 2 = 2883)

Annual expence per head during

this first second period upon that supposition

£ s d

35:13:2

Divide again by 3/4 of the whole number

of Convicts shipped off in the course

of the whole 12 years 5765 x 3/4 = 4324

Annual expence per head upon this supposition

£ s d

23:15:4

JB_094_339v.xml

Title: [[094-339v] 13 Nov. 1802 N.S]

Description: [094-339v]

13 Nov. 1802

N.S. Wales

5 Economy

5. Fifth head of comparison between the two Systems: Fifth and last object or end proper to be kept in view in a system of penal legislation: the one collateral object, Economy: the establishment allotted to the purpose.

This head of consideration discussed in the same and demonstrative accuracy, in which the advocates of the Colonial system have never ceased to behold their sentence. I beg your Lordship's pardon: instead of advocates I should rather have said supporters: for, to be an advocate of a System, a man must have something to say for it, which, in the case of a supporter is not necessary. In the present instance, in the character of advocates, I have always found gentlmen as silent and modest, as in the character of supporters I have found them powerful, and by dint of power, firm and strenuous.

According to the calculations in the Report, in New South Wales, the average annual expence of convicts per head, varying according to a variety of statements and supposition - "from ,33.9.52 to ,46.7.0 1/4: the highest rate of expence the most probable.

Annual expence per head of Convicts maintained in the inteded Penitentiary plan exclusive of of expence of building and outfitting once paid as per draught of Contract 2P "Finance Report, p. 70. II 34.g.3.c.84.'1. ,12:0:0 Expence of building and outfitting for the intended number of a thousand, as per d o ,19,000, Say for raised numbers ,20,000. This at 5 per cent makes to be added per head per annum ,1:0:0.

Expence of land for the building had the spot at Battersea been taken that had been appropriated to the Penitentiary establishment by a Jury under the Act of 1779 ,5,600: [...?] or if an allowance had been made

+ for the intervening rise in value, say ,10,000. This at 5 per Cent makes to be further added per Cent per annum ,0:10.0

Total expence per annum ,13:10:0

+ In the 28 th Report of the Committee on Finance, Your Lordship possesses a document in which this topic stands discussed, with that comprehensive.

JB_122_516_001.xml

Title: [§.7.(21) + 57 Rate V: Southwell Rate]

Description: §.7.(21) +

57 Rate V: Southwell Rate, for two Years, ending

25 Dec: r 1810 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

-£23,438: 10 s : 10 d

Grounds of this Estimate - 1. "The average annual cost of each prisoner in

the Nottinghamshire "House of Correction" (viz the House at Southwell as

above) (says the said Mr Beecher in his evidence p.41 of the

above mentioned report. " computed according to the

last quarter, amounts only "to £8 " 7 " 11, ⱡ and upon an average of the last two years,

to the sum "of £9 " 5 " 5 1/2; which, from

accidental circumstances is higher than may again be expected." Thus far,

the Reverend Magistrate - To take that rate of profit which, to the

claimant, is the least advantageous of all these, six rates, say then as

above £9 " 5 " 5 1/2.

2. Add amount of salaries "in the Penitentiary "containing 1000, prisoners

" (meaning the Penitentiary which under the Claimants said contract was to

have been set up) viz on the footing of the calculation made by the same

gentleman in the same page H H Penitentiary Committee Report, p.41.

Appendix as above - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - £ 1 " 15 s " 0 d

3. This gives - total annual cost per head - - - £11 " 0 " 5 1/2 4. Head

money, for each of the 1000 under the Panopticon Contract as above - - - -

- - - - - - - -12 " 0 " 0 5. Deduct cost as above - - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - 11 " 0 " 5 1/2 Remains net profit - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0 " 19 " 6 1/2

notes. ⱡ March 15, 1811 is the day on which this

Evidence was delivered: hence it is that I infer, that the quarter on that occasion meant, is the quarter ending 25.

Dec r 1810. But, in the table delivered in by the

same Gentleman, and printed in the same Report, the Year being, as above observed, every where left in blank, the quarter day all along referred to is the

24th of June.

# "But suppose" (says he) Penit y Report 31 May 1811

p.44) "But suppose the Governor, Chaplain and Surgeon of the Penitentiary

to receive the same Salary as at Newgate, and allowing for a Secretary with

a suitable number of turnkeys and taskmasters, the yearly

expence of such an Establishment apportioned among 1000

prisoners, will be only £1 " 15 " 0: which makes £10. " 2. " 11, if added

to £8 " 7 " 11 and £11" 0 " 5 1/2, if added to £9 " 5 " 5 1/2.

6. Multiplied