1822 May 12

Economy etc

Q. What, if any, are the circumstances by which with reference to this function a

member of the community is rendered destitute of /divested of/ the requisite and

indispensable portion of intellectual aptitude viz in the shape of scientific

and judicial aptitudes

A. Yes: namely 1. Immaturity in respect of age

2. Destituteness or insufficiency in respect of that branch of art and science of

appropriate scientific aptitude which is necessary to enable the constitutive

functionary to form a judgment concerning /in relation to/ the aggregate

appropriate aptitude absolute and comparative of a person proposed for the

situation of member of the body of supremely operative functionaries, in a word

the art of reading, and /with the addition of the art/ of writing as applied to

the signature of his own name: provided alway that in a number sufficient to

constitute an interest not different /disagreeing/ from the universal interest

members endowed with the [...?] of art and science are in a condition to

exercise the function

Q. What in the scale of age is the point below which the greatest happiness

principle requires that immaturity with reference to this function be presumed.

A. That point, below which persons in general are regarded as not possessed of

knowledge and judgment sufficient to enable them to take the general direction

of their own conduct.

Q. What is that age?

A. On this point fixation can not be other than in a great degree arbitrary and

casual Custom may therefore be allowed to determine. Under Rome bred law the age

thus fixt is five and twenty years; under English-bred law, one and twenty. One

and twenty seems full long enough, five and twenty much too long. Where no clear

decision is given by reason /Reason silent or hesitating/, custom should on

every occasion decide the scale. By departure from custom, disappointment is

produced: and by disappointment, disquietude, meanness, pain.
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  • Title: [[clviii. 351] 1822 May 15 Economy]
    Description: [clviii. 351]

    1822 May 15

    Economy etc

    Ch Securities for I Moral Aptitude

    .2.I. Identification of interests

    2. or 1. Identification of personal with universal interest how effected in the highest grades.

    1. Constitutive power as to supreme operative in all members, asigned causes of exclusion excepted: its Fractionization thus maximized

    2. Fractionizing supreme operative power - the fraction not exercising it, but in conjunction: viz in an assembly.

    3. Rendering supreme operative functionaries responsible to do. constitutive.

    3 or 2. Q. Are there any members of the community whom on any account the greatest happiness principle pronounces unapt for participation in the constitutive power with relation to the supreme operative do.

    A. Yes: all presumably not adequately possessed of appropriate aptitude

    4. or 3. Q. Who are they.

    As to moral aptitude none. No moral inaptitude being greater than what is constituted by disposition to sacrifice the interest of all others to self-interest: and where equal power towards accomplishment of this wish is given to all, nothing better can be done for universal interest.

    5. or 4. Q. As to intellectual aptitude any?

    A. Yes: namely

    1. All disqualified as to appropriate judgmt. by immaturity of age.

    2. - or as to appropriate scientific aptitude, by inability to read and give assent or dissent by writing: provided there be persons thus apt in sufficient number to constitute an interest not disagreeing with the universal do.

    6. or 5. Q. Age, what at which relative immaturity should cease?

    A. that at which it should cease with relation to general self government.

    7. or 6. Q. What is that?

    A. Arbitrary division here unavoidable - custom may therefore determine

    1. Per Rome bred law 25. years.

    2. Per English bred, 21.

    English term of immaturity full long - Reason silent or hesitating - Custom a useful arbiter. From departure from custom, disappointment: from disappointment, pain.
  • Title: [1822 May 24 Economy etc Location]
    Description: 1822 May 24

    Economy etc

    Location of functionaries by superiority in the scale of pecuniary

    competition in the case of certain offices, viz Offices not requiring appropriate

    scientific aptitude, or in Offices although requiring scientific aptitude in case of

    equality of altitude in the scale of scientific competition

    Objection - exclusion of Candidates all but such as are furnished

    with property in the shape of capital to a certain amount all but the relatively and

    comparatively rich.

    Addition to be made to the answers on another sheet.

    1 A most strongly probative circumstantial and presumptive evidence

    of relish for the function in question, and consequent appropriate aptitude in

    respect of all its branches taken together is the smallness of the recompence if any

    or retribution which the Candidate is content to receive in consideration of

    /compensation for/ his taking upon himself the obligations attached to the Office To

    exclude pecuniary competition in the shape in question on the occasion in question is

    to deprive /divest/ the public service /in its character of Master/ of this important

    security for appropriate aptitude on the part of its servants.

    2. The money and time expended on the acquisition of the requisite

    degree of appropriate aptitude, is so much capital employed in the construction of

    the psychological machinery necessary to the performance of the work belonging to the

    Office No reason can be assigned why to enable them to obtain the matter of

    subsistence and abundance by the use of machinery in this form - of capital applied

    to this branch of industry capital should in the shape of a bounty be bestowed upon

    any description of persons any more than to enable them to do the like by the use of

    machinery and capital applied to any other branch of industry. If it were right that

    at the expence of all the government should give capital to the few for the purpose

    of its receiving this application - so would it be that capital should thus be given

    for the purpose of every other application that could be named: instead of having the

    /a correspondent/ chance of correspondent eventual profit, to all such as out of

    their own stock shall be at the same time able and willing to purchase it by the

    making of the necessary advance.
  • Title: [1822 June 10 Economy etc In]
    Description: 1822 June 10

    Economy etc

    In this mixt government the actual relative and comparative power of

    the several associates can not at any moment be ascertained by any general criterion

    or rule It depends upon idiosyncrasy: it depends upon the particular disposition and

    character, moral, intellectual and active, of the several individuals by whom the

    several Offices are filled. Supposing relative intellectual and active aptitude equal

    on the part of all the several individuals by /among/ whom at any given point of time

    the aggregate mass of supreme power is shared, the effective power of the Monarch

    punitive power and remunerative power taken into the account, the power of the

    Monarch in this mixt form will be equal /not inferior/ to the effective power of the

    Monarch in a pure Monarchy. On the contrary /other hand/ suppose it to a certain

    degree deficient, the government will during the continuance of such deficiency,

    differ little or nothing in its effects little or nothing from a pure Aristocracy

    This for example will always be the case during a certain number of

    the earliest years of the Monarch in /under what is called/ a minority: while by reason of immaturity of age, the Monarch is under a state

    of domestic /natural/ subjection to his Guardian or Guardians.

    In /Under/ the English Government disapprobation and condemnation may

    without personal danger or considerable /general/ offence be directed against the

    aristocratical members of this partnership: they stand accordingly stigmatized by the

    reproachful name /disapprobative appellation/ of Borough mongers: and to these same

    Boroughmongers the production all the evils which have been the necessary fount of

    the English form of government may accordingly without personal danger or general

    offence be imputed. But the powers [...?] of the Monarch the powers distinguished by

    the appellation of the /his/ prerogatives directly and

    exclusively are in the hands of the Monarch, being exercised by his signature and no

    otherwise

    [Marginal note]

    Dyslogistic - synonym disapprobative

    eulogistic - synonym approbative