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Title: [8. ib. Page 40. "The latter part of the expence]

Description: 8. ib. Page 40. "The latter part of the expence would indeed be only

temporary; but supposing it to be perpetual What government can,

in the present day, be so unenlightened, as not to know, that the

preservation of its citizens, and the amendment of those who do

wrong, is one of the most positive obligations? that it is itself guilty

of every crime importable to its negligence or improvidence?

subscribe to it? Does your Lordship know of any other person

who would subscribe to it

tron or is it romance? The

What says Your Lordship to this question? That any such

light as the noble writer speaks of ever found its way into

Treasury? the scab of government here? One pair of

stairs - two pair of stairs- against or any other floor

of the Treasury Chambers

In the mind of the noble writer the idea of obligation

it is evident from this passage had some how or other become

connected with the idea of the scabs of state. Your Lordship

smiles: but Your Lordship's candour would obscure

in the behalf when he was writing — in America;

writing in America, and having in his company - among

Quakers

What is rather more to the purpose there was once a time

when an idea not very dissimilar appears to have been floating must have been floating

in the mind of the Honourable Gentleman whose official

seat is not many yards distant from Your Lordships'. "With

respect to Your Consul please (says Mr Vansittart in

the last letter I have been honoured with by that gentleman

dated 10 th September 1802)" I have not yet had an opportunity

of consulting with Lord Pelham, on whose decision the

business

JB_094_285v.xml

Title: [[094-285v] 20 Feb y 1807 Letter]

Description: [094-285v]

20 Feb y 1807

Letter IV

[...?] 6.7.8.9.

Juries[?] in After denial

 Injured[?] in C?

And [...?] my Lord, after a Cabinet the Lord Chancellor and the Lord Chief Justice [...?], the two learned Lords in company, should Your Lordship be disposed for a little sport /[...?...?]/ (for under Your Lordship's high and painful /arduous/ labours /a [...?] and //as well as// arduous coarse of [...?] and labour like Your Lordship's/, relaxation in some shape or other may be necessary and to amusement may in some shapes add congenial use) disposed for sport, and at the same time to take for subjects, if not partakers of it Your two noble and learned messmates[?] a sort of game for example to be played at afar dinner, across the convivial table - merriment - merriment which to a Lord Grenville will not be the less palatable[?], if at the bottom of it there should be found a little Lark[?] of evidence - should this find Your Lordship in any such humour, should it be found not altogether without its dash of wisdom I would beg leave to submitt to Your Lordship not a /the/ game at /of/ [...?] exactly a game of questions and commands, but a game of questions simply - put together, a pair of them in the form of a dilemma.

Among the cases /instances/ in which Jury trial has been sold[?], there being so many in which it is not delivered, to what or to whom (says Your Lordship) am I to look says Your Lordship, for the deficiency? to the system, or to the hands by whom it is administered? If to the system, then why, my good Lord Erskine /Chancellor/, do you take it for a [...?] for your[?] coach? If to the hands, then what, my good Lord Ellenborough, have Yours been about, all this while?

There, my Lord, is the dilemma. Upon one or other of its horns, Your Lordship may I think concern yourself with seeing one or other of their learned Lordships stuck writhing and fluttering, till Mary[?] whispers to let him down.

JB_116_494_001.xml

Title: [21 Dec 1802 Letter 3 (2 they might]

Description: 21 Dec 1802 Letter 3 (2

they might submit to the calamity thus passing upon them —

a murrain among Convicts, as they would to any other calamity, such as

a murrain among the cattle: they might look upon it as a sort of momentary

and passing scourge, and ascribe it rather to a want an absence

of thought rather than to any such exuberance and profundity and for

a construction an interpretation to their effect of this evil,

surely my Lord, there could not be any great want of grounds. of

thought. But if As it was not in the nature of the case that

gentlemen thus plagued should find out what his Grace the noble

arbiter of their fate had in view in plaguing them, much less is

it in proof or in probability that his Grace should ever have condescended

to bestow upon them any such information of himself. Were

even the fact of proposed and anxious concealment out of the

question, no man surely who should have read this letter,

can have conceived it possible that it should have been the

intention of +

+ any person who either

argued it or wrote it, or if there were any such

other person other person, thought about it 2 It is converted

into a plan, only by the very fabrication of it the noble

writer that the contents of it or any part of them should

ever travell a safe beyond the

two floors from between which it passed. one of

which to the other it was transmitted. [If this be true, and if the

knowledge of the existence of a plan be necessary to the execution of it on

the part of those who by that plan are to be drawn or led to

execute it, a

matter result

in no small degree beyond any natural course of expectation

of no small degree of response will be sure to follow. The

accomplishment of this design

of this high-born and super-official design for its

accomplishment will after all be due in no small degree to such

an homunico as myself. If it be to his Grace alone that

the law behest of his Grace is indebted for its conception,

origination to me, my Lord, (Your Lordship starts and

smiles) Yes to me, my Lord to the poor worm

Your Lordship he treads on, that the law is indebted for its

promulgation. What irregularities anomalities what

vicissitudes will sometimes be displayd by the tide which

manifests itself in the affairs of men."

How

whimsical and paradoxical and unexpected will be the contrasts

and