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{as compleatly exempt as possible from every such external influence.}
27. That, forasmuch as, according to the originally and immemorially established,
and still existing, forms and practice of the Constitution of this realm, the
disposal of public offices and Commissions is, and all along has been, without any
considerable exception, lodged in the hands of the Crown, to which Offices and
Commissions, pecuniary emolument has all along, for the most part, been, - and to a
greater or less amount can not but continue to be, - attached – and not only Offices
and Commissions, but objects of general desire, in various other shapes, such as
those of power, rank, and dignity, in a variety of forms, all which advantages
constitute so many instruments of temptation, by the hope of obtaining which, for
themselves or their connections in the way of personal interest or sympathy, or in so
far as obtained by the fear of being deprived thereof, the representatives of the
people can not but continue to be exposed, as at all times they have been exposed, to
be seduced from their duty, and induced to sacrifice the universal interest, of the
people their constituents, to the particular interest or supposed interest of the
Crown, its servants and their adherents, possessors, many of them, by one means or
other, of seats in Parliament, - hence arises a necessity – not only for the giving,
to the continuance of their respective terms in such their trust, the shortest
practicable duration, as above, but moreover, in the event of any such transgression,
to the profit whereof it may happen, to be greater in value, than the utmost loss, to
which they can ever be subjected by simple removal from such their {trust, - the
further necessity, of rendering them eventually subject to adequate ?quere what? punishment, +[1] at the hands, or at the
instance, of their successors in such their trust.}
28. That, forasmuch as, in proportion as it has place, this influence of the Crown
can not be exercised and made productive of its natural effect, without counteracting
and /outweighing and/ overpowering, in the breasts of their Representatives, the influence of the
people, - and that, in such sort as to engage them to make
continual sacrifice of the interest of such their dependents, and adherents, - such
influence may, with but too incontrovertible propriety, be termed a Sinister influence.
29. That, so long ago as the year 1780, in consequence of the experience then
already had, and the strong sense accordingly entertained, not only of the existence,
but of the mischievous effects of this same sinister influence, it was, in and by a
Resolution passed on the 6 th day of April in that year by this
House, declared, of and concerning the influence of the Crown, that the same “has
encreased, is encreasing, and ought to be diminished.”
30. That, since that time, this same sinister influence hath been encreased, viz on
the one hand, by the difference between the public Debt and consequent Taxes of that
time (viz. between £ | | and £ | |) and the public Debt and Taxes of the present time
(between £ | | and £ | |); on the other hand by the amount of the standing army at
that time, between ( ) and ( ) men /(viz Army 35,003 +[2] men)/,
and the amount of the standing Army (viz between ( ) and ( ) men at this present
time: the debt, - in respect of the taxes, necessary for payment of the interest
thereof, and the profitable patronage and power, exercised in relation to the several
offices and Commissions, necessary for the collection of those same taxes: - the
army, “in respect of the patronage and power exercised in relation to the Offices and
Commissions thereunto belonging, as well as of the faculty of applying that same
power to the stifling the voice, and destroying the liberties, of the people.”
+[1] Answer – No use in saying what: it would only afford a handle for objections
against a proposition the truth of which as it stands is out of the reach of dispute.
J.B.
But I have no objection to the omission of this clause about punishment on this
occasion, indispensable as I can not but regard the measure thus proposed. J.B.
+[2] Annual Register A o 1780, p.308 Supplies granted by
Parliament for the Year 1780.
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