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1818 Dec. 22 Parl Reform Bill
1818 Dec. 22

Parl Reform Bill

Dialogue II

Preliminary View

Dialogue?

Electi Evils

2

2

11

Inserendum?

Miselection[?]

Non[?]

Mill[?]

{ Anti Reformist. We are still in the clouds. I hope it won’t be long before you

land us on solid /plain/ ground: if it is I shall begin /be apt/ to cry out

Metaphysist[?]!

Reformist. I cry you mercy /Have patience/: One division more and then you will know

whereabouts you are. Those hurtful evils which are hurtful to the public alone

whether they are or are not so /without being so/ to individuals, I divide them in

the first place into such as are as they may be called ultimate or consummate and

such as are but introductory or unconsummate. By such as I stile consummate, hurt

/harm/ is already done as soon as they take place: by such as I stile unconsummate

they being but /or merely/ introductory no harm is yet done nor will be unless they

are productive of or followed by such as I stile consummate. }
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    Anti-Reformist. Come then, set to work your exhaustion-pump: give us /produce/ your

    divisions: if they suit my taste /I like them/ they please me/ I will call them

    logical ones: if they do not suit my taste /I dont like them/ /they displease me/ I

    will call them metaphysical. Let us both be at liberty you produce what you please: I

    give what name to it I please.

    Reformist. Agreed: First then, these Election evils I divide them into

    characteristic and uncharacteristic or not characteristic.

    Anti-Reformist. What do you here mean by characteristic?

    Reformist. I mean such evils as have are not only liable to have place on the

    occasion of the sort /mode/ of Election in question, but could not have place without

    it.

    Anti-Reformist. Then by your uncharacteristic evils you mean such evils as are

    liable to have place on the occasion in question, but are moreover liable to have

    place on other occasions. {Well, your characteristic Election evils what are they.}

    {Reformist. Before I tell you what they are I must divide them in the first place

    into hurtful | | the mischief of which falls upon men in their public capacity alone,

    such the /injurious to the public alone, evils hurtful to individuals only and evils

    hurtful to the public and to individuals, both at the same time/. }

    Reformist. Exactly so. It is a real satisfaction /comfort/ to me, to see you thus

    beforehand /going before/ with me.
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    Anti-Reformist. So much for your uncharacteristic Election evils: Now for your

    characteristic ones.

    Reformist. A little patience, and you shall have names as familiar to you as {any

    of} those others. But first you must allow me a division or two, or if you please a

    distinction or two.

    Anti-Reformist. To be sure I must /Oh yes, any thing you please/. But then you on

    your part you must allow me to yawn if I cant help it, or to take my hat up and walk

    off.

    Reformist. {Both are always in your power.} /I see you have a mind /an inclin/ to be

    in the fashion. You have been lately I suspect/ There is a great red house, in which

    if you attempt to distinguish any one thing from any other, or to make any use of the

    numeration table, every body leaves /runs out of/ the room that instant But to

    proceed. You admitt /There is nothing very alarming to you/ the distinction between

    the public and individuals.

    Anti-Reformist. Not much: although individuals, if I am not mistaken are the matter

    /stuff/ of which the public was made.

    Reformist. Well then, if it should turn out that by such and such individual, would

    be made to suffer, be it more or less, such sufferance you will admitt would be

    sufficient to constitute an evil – an Election evil – although it should not appear

    that by the cause in question evil in any other shape would attach upon the public at

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    Anti-Reformist. To be sure I will /No objection do I see/.

    {Reformist. Evils hurtful to the public only, evils hurtful to individuals only,

    evils hurtful to the public and to individuals together – /in/ this division you see

    is /I have/ an exhaustive one.}

    {Anti-Reformist. Oh yes: much good may it do you with it:}
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    Anti-Reformist. Proceed.

    Reformist. I obey. Among Election evils such as are appropriate I divide in the

    first place into those which regard /apply to/ the situation of Representatives in

    the immediate way, to wit through the medium of that of Electors.

    Anti-Reformist. Perfectly logical, for aught I know: plainly exhaustive I must

    confess. But still I am /find myself/ in the clouds. I hope it will not be long ere

    we land in /on/ terra firma.

    Reformist. At the very next step /One step more and/ we are there. The evils which

    apply to situation of Representative in an immediate way are these three: to wit. 1.

    Miselection; 2. Non-Election; 3. Null-Election.