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1818 Dec. 21
Parl Reform Bill
Dialogue II
Election Evils
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Inserendumne?[?]
Dialogue 2 o. {Evils and remedies} – Evils /What evils there are/
to be guarded against: {what remedies are for that purpose proposed to be provided
Anti-Reformist. Well, so it is – I am in[?] computation[?] of interest. I am in[?]
disposition[?] to make and to persevere in making the sinister sacrifice, and as to
the time of so doing /making it/, that by the supposition is out of the question, it
is unfortunately implied in the appellation of ratios. Here
then is so much evil. But your own scheme this remedial[?] scheme of yours, think you
that no evil is to be found in it?
Reformist. The question you put is for form sake No such absurdity I am sure do you
mean to impute to me. […?] Government is but a choice of evils. - Taking evil in a
certain sense life itself – the very happiest life is but a choice of evils. Taken by
itself, government is in every shape an […?] evil: government in my own proposed form
of course as well as in any /every/ other.
Anti-Reformist. You take me right. Accordingly with very little expence of thought,
I could present you with evils in plenty to none of which you could yourself imagine
your scheme of reform to be unexposed. But since this matter has been so well
/thoroughly/ considered by you, the shortest way would be for you to give in[?] to
produce your own list of these evils, with the remedies by which you regard yourself
as having in a manner more or less effectual made provision against them. It would
/will/ then be to be all along upon the watch for the purpose of satisfying myself in
the first place whether your list of evils be a compleat one; in the next place how
far your remedies afford a promise of being sufficient.
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