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1818 Dec. 24 Parl. Reform Bill.
1818 Dec. 24

Parl. Reform Bill.

Dialogue

Preliminary View

Evils & Remedies

1 Evils

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Reformist continued. You will see how simple my Vote making Certificate is. No work

{whatever} left for the lawyers. /long-robed enemies of mankind./ Call it visionary,

you may be accordingly quite sure of their joining you in full chorus.

Anti-Reformist. After all this it appears that your characteristic your appropriate,

your principal evils – are but evils purely in tendency.

Reformist. Nothing more.

Anti-Reformist. But what a subversion of logical order and consistency is this into

which you have betrayed yourself

Reformist. I beg your pardon. When in the account of felicity and simplicity, the

elements of values are considered, that of extent must not be neglected. By a certain

degree of extent, the utmost[?] […?]lness in the article of magnitude seems to be

more than compensated. This is the case with the whole class of those offences

/misdeeds/ by which the public at large in its public /aggregate/ capacity is

affected, and not any assignable individuals.
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