26[?] Nov r 1809

Parl Reform Plan Ch.10 Art 10[?] Qualification of Electors

Remedy […?]

1. To prevent corruption Electors in each district should be numerous: hence

qualifications should be such as are possessed by a great number

2. The more numerous the less the sollicitude about establishing grounds of

disqualification. No matter if Jews[?], foreigners, lunatics or even convicts are

included

3. Avoidance of litigation is more material than the exclusion of a few persons who

if they were capable of constituting a majority would need to be disqualified.

4. On all these accounts payment to direct taxes recommends itself as far superior to

any other qualification: because the title may with so little trouble and expence be

placed[?] altogether out of dispute.

5. To this purpose and on this occasion neither probity nor intelligence are of

considerable import not probity because no trusteeship, intelligence not because the

choice will be limited to a very few candidates no one of whom if in any considerable

degree notoriously improper would be likely to offer himself to public scrutiny
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  • Title: [8 Oct. 1810 Parl. Reform Plan. Ch]
    Description: 8 Oct. 1810

    Parl. Reform Plan. Ch.1. Qualifications

    8 Oct. r 1810

    {1. Disqualifications none but such as would obstruct the proceedings by annoying the

    assembled Members. }

    {2. Primary internal qualifications the only d o ultimately

    material.

    {3. For the possession of these on the part of a majority their[?] free choice of

    Electors is sufficient security}

    {4. Want of qualification, even primary, no inconvenience in any instance unless in

    that instance existing on the part of a majority}

    {5. Interest adverse to that of the majority of the people no objection unless it had

    place in the case of a majority of the members as under the system of corrupt

    influence at[?] now lies.}

    {6. If it were an objection it ought to shut out Scotch & Irish Members.}

    {7. Therefore it applies not to Catholics, Jews, Mahomedans &c.}

    8. An interest not extensive enough to prevail by votes can only prevail by arguments

    8. To acknowledge of any such interest that it is likely to prevail by arguments is

    to acknowledge that it is in the right.

    Logical View

    {1. Connection between Qualifications and disqualifications – external and factitious

    & determinate elements of[?] […?] […?]

    2. Sole use of both, securing the pecuniary internal qualifications.

    General impropriety

    3. Effect of /of any/ such legal disqualifications counteracting free choice it

    affirms[?] that the elector will /may/ make a bad choice: bad in the respect in

    question.

    Particular propriety}

    {4. Like cases where such counteraction[?] can be justifiable}

    {2 The instance of bad choice liable to be immense enough to compose an efficient

    majority of unfit persons. Placemen Kings dependents}

    {1. A single person capable of doing a mischief which the majority could not prevent

    or remedy. […?]manship & Womanhood.}

    5. Opulence a false security for all elements of aptitude. viz. Probity:

    intelligence: intent for action ( disposition to action

    belongs to probity)

    Harm of independence: compleat, not producible by opulence: as against constituents

    not desirable.

    6. Particular judgement of Electors (if free and numerous) a better test /proof/ of

    relative aptitude than any of these general spots, of

    inaptitude.

    7. For special causes, produced or discovered since […?] expectation may be reasonable: presumption, ha this been known, he would not

    have been elected: - but subject to re-election.

    §.1 + Qualification & disqualif. their object real

    & pretended

    §.2. + Qualifications required at present.

    §.3. + Disqualifications established at present

    §.4. + To require a qualification is to establish a

    disqualification

    §.5. + Effect of disqualification with reference to the

    rights of Electors

    §.6. + Proper and improper causes of disqualification -

    principles

    §.7. Proper causes

    1. […?]ness as on physical account

    §.8. – 2. Womanhood

    §.9. Office-holding (civil) […?] included

    §.10. Improper courses.

    1 […?] a moral

    §.11.2 Sincerity

    §.12.3. Want of opulence

    §.13.4. Furnishing goods a labour for public service

    §.14. Alienage.

    §.15. Independence – here for a sign /mark/ of aptitude.

    Qualifications and disqualifications […?] […?] in shares when the

    people would prefer than[?] it becomes 17

    th

    [?] […?] under the proposed reading[?]

    17 Nov r 1809

    Parl y Ref m. B. Plan. Ch. 1.

    Art. 1. Qualifications

    §.2. Primary & 2 dary.

    1.

    Qualifications, primary /internal/ & secondary /exterior/ - p.1.

    2.

    Primary, probity and intelligence, and active talent p.1.

    3

    Secondary conduce[?] to primary. p.1.

    4.

    Power and will concurring, effect follows. p.1 –

    5.

    Power & will to fulfill this official duty concurring fulfillment follows.

    p.1.

    6.

    On degree of (appropriate) intelligence depends power of

    fulfillment as to this duty.

    7.

    On d o of probity, will as to d o. p 2

    8

    Hence all secondary qualifications are referable to probity & intelligence,

    and active talent as the primary d o to which they are

    subservient. p.2.

    { Next after this part

    §. on Independence.

    { 9 or 1.

    Secondary qualifications positive and negative.

    10 or 2.

    Positive fitting a man for the situation p.3

    11 or 3.

    Negative consisting in the absence of such as w d unfit him. p.3.

    12 or 4 –

    A negative qualification is the absence of a disqualification

    13 or 5.

    Between qualifications and disqualifications the line of distinction is variable

    & depends on the accidental structure of language }

    §.3. Probity first

    14 or 6

    Interest being such as to engage a man in a course of conduct opposite to probity,

    intelligence tends but to unfit him p4

    §.2/3/. {Primary &} 2 dary.

    §.3. Probity first

    15 or 7

    Hence though both are indispensable probity with reference to the majority requires

    for the […?] of it the greatest care. p4

    16 or 8

    In a trustee, probity (relative) consists in subservience

    to relative interest of his principal.

    17 or 9

    If greatest happiness of greatest number be the end of government – a member is

    trustee for his constituents & the people: immediately for his constituents ultimately for the

    people for whom his constituents are themselves trustees. p5.

    18 or 10

    To fulfill his duty the line of conduct he pursues must be such as in his own judgment is most subservient to that end:- viz –

    whatsoever be the line pointed out by any other will. p.6.

    1

    + 1. Alienage.

    2

    + 2. Non-use

    Disqualifications improper convicted

    8

    + 2. Criminality of nos[?] specified by law

    6

    3. + Exclusion indirect by the King

    7

    4. Exclusion indirect by an individual other than the man himself

    4

    5. + Peerage or possession of a Membership of /in/ the House

    of Lords.

    3

    6. + Priesthood.

    5

    7. + Judgeship.

    10

    8. + Heterodoxy.

    11

    9. + Sincerity.

    9

    10. Libelling

    12 Royal family[?].

    Statute[?] test of persons disqualified or once supposed to be so.

    1 + Aliens and persons naturalized

    + 2. Minors

    + 3. Clergy.

    * { 4 Heirs apparent of Peers

    + * { 5. Ambassadors or Foreign Ministers

    + * { 6. […?] Geo r[?] and attendants in

    House of Lords.

    + 7. Peoples[?] of Returning Officials[?]

    + * 8. Sick.

    + * 9. Outlaws and in Executions[?]

    + 10 - {Accepting[?] Officers[?]}

    11 {Members […?]ing for other places}

    I

    1

    {§.1. Primary and secondary

    I. 2

    §.2. Secondary position and negative.

    I 4

    §.3. of primary probity more to be aimed at than intelligence. viz on the part of the

    majority.

    I 3

    §.4. Why probity, rather than independence }

    I 3

    §.5 6 Probity to be aimed at in the aggregate rather than in

    individuals separately considered.

    See Attendance.

    §.6. Parl. y probity whence[?] it consists: as towards King

    independence: as towards peoples dependence.

    I 7

    §.7. Means of securing the maximum of both.

    1 No vote to Placemen or Pensioners {or Contractors?}

    2. Annual dismissibility by constituents

    I 8

    §.8. Unimportance of probity as against private advan[?]:

    { Ch. 2. Of special disqualifications

    II

    §.9. Disqualifications – unimportance of all but those which consist in

    innoxiousness.

    II

    Ch.3. Of pecuniary qualifications or rather disqualifications

    II

    §.10. Pecuniary qualification – uselessness[?] and mischievousness of the requisition

    of it.}

    Persons disqualified or liable to be proposed to be disqualified

    {I. Absque delicto

    1. Females

    2. Aliens

    3. Peers

    4. Priests }

    II. Propter delictione

    + 1. Convicts of infamous crimes

    2. Libellous convicts

    + 3. Dissenters in Religion
  • Title: [15 Nov r 1809 Parliament y Reform]
    Description: 15 Nov r 1809

    Parliament y Reform Plan – Chapters and Sections proposed.

    { Book I. Concerning the House and its Members.

    Ch.1. Art. 1. Qualification and Disqualifications

    §.1. Members why first considered before Electors

     This perhaps in a preliminary part?

    §.2. Primary qualifications

    1. Probity. 2. Intelligence.

    Say probity not […?] prudence.

    §.3. Secondary qualifications their connections with primary qualifications and with

    disqualifications.

    §.4. Disqualifications in general.

    §.5 Pecuniary qualifications or rather disqualifications.

    Ch.2. Art. 2. Disqualification by office, so far as concerns the right of voting

    Ch.3. Art.2. Military Officers by Sea and Land why exempted from the disqualification

    in respect of the right of voting.

    Ch.4. Art.4. Rights of speach and motion with leave of the House why proposed to be

    given to the official men now admitted and to their[?] officers[?]

    §.1.

    Ch.5. Art.5. Of the Attendance of Members

    §.1. General and regular attendance why desirable

    §.2. Means of securing attendance /it/

    Ch.6. Art.6.

    Publication, correct, compleat, prompt and authentic, of speeches of Members and

    transactions of the House.

    Ch.7. Art.7. Continuance of Members in Office – Elections annual.

    §.1.

    Book II. Concerning Electors

    Ch. 8

    Art.8. Mode of voting.

    §.1. For Home-voters, the secret mode.

    Ch.9. Art 9.

    §.1. For out-voters, the epistolary mode.

    §.2. For Out voters, proxies sent to Home-Voters.

    Ch.10.

    Art.10. Qualification for the right of voting

    §.1. Disqualification

    §.2. Qualification viz. by payment of taxes

    §.3. Document for proof of the qualification

    Ch.11. Art.11. Pecuniary qualification – its amount

    Book 3. Concerning Electoral Districts

    Ch.12. Art.12.

    Electoral districts

    how to be marked out.

     One Member only for each Deposit.
  • Title: [1809 '.1 + Parl. Reform. B + Electors]
    Description: 1809 '.1 +

    Parl. Reform. B + Electors

    Ch.10. Qualification

    '.1

    1

    1

    Ch.10 Art.10 Qualification of Electors.

    Want of intelligence, a disqualification lessening every day: would be lessened by the proposed [...?]. (Member should bear or be [...?].) Also by Fallacy-Book. Qualification usually lowered by depreciation: but by newspapers &c. 40 s seems[?] more intelligent now than temp. Hen. 6.

    Agreement on this head is matter /beset/ of peculiar difficulty. This is among those topics in relation to which Reason is in a more particular degree apt to find itself at a loss. In the finding out the principles that bear upon the case /question/, there is little or no difficulty. But quantities must be fixed: and neither separately nor collectively do the principles indicated by Reason point in any instance to any one quantity to the exclusion of all others. Within the limits marked out by principles under the evidence of Reason much must necessarily be left to be done by mere will under no better guidance than that of chance.

    Here {as in mechanics}, what we gain in one shape we must be {content to sacrifice} /run the risk of sacrifi/ in another. In mechanics, the force of the [...?] [...?] given, what we gain in purchase we must lose in time. Here in this branch of politics, which we in gaining on the side of probity /in probity/, we are losing on the side of

    intelligence.

    I do not say what we gain in probity we lose in intelligence: for by the word what /an/ equal quantities would be designated in both cases /on both side/. In /For/ this case there would be nothing to choose - employed in this subject thought and reason would be thrown away.