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Note on John

John

Chap. XIII. Ch XIV

Vague and contradictory discourse

XIII 36 Peter. ‘Lord whither goest thou?'

Jesus ‘Whither I go, thou must not follow after wards me now: but thou shalt follow me afterwards.’

Conf. XIV. 4. ‘Whither I go ye know, and the 'way ye know.’ ib. 5.

Thomas ‘Lord we know not whither thou goest, and how can we know the way.’

(6) Jesus. I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no man cometh to the Father, but through me.’

Ch. XIV. 1. ‘Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God: believe also in me.’

Here then Jesus and God are distinct persons.

ib. V. 8. Philip saith unto him Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. (9.)

Jesus. Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.

John

Ch. XIV.

Throughout this Chapter Jesus is sometimes one identical with the Father, sometimes different.

XIV. 28. ‘For my Father is greater than I.

ib. 31 ‘as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do.

ib. 24. ‘The word which you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.’

Yet in v. 10. 11 it has been said Believest though not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father, that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

v. 11. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me:…

V. 26. The comforter the Holy Ghost if a separate being is an inferior and dependent one. V. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance.

John Ch. XV

V. 1. to 8. Allusive parable Jesus the Vine, his disciples its branches

9. Jesus an object of love to the Father: ergo different.

10. Jesus ‘even as I have kept my father’s commandments, and abide in his love.’ Ergo inferior.

XV When the Comforter is come, whom I shall send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth which proceedeth from the Father he shall testify of me.

Ch. XIII v. 36. Peter Lord Whither goest thou?

Ch. XVI. 5. to 16 different chapter but same conversation. Jesus. ‘Now I go my way to him that sent me, and none of you asketh me whither goest thou?

Thus on all subjects the talking backwards and forwards is perpetual.

Vague and self contradictory generalities which to recount them are to must be understood sometimes literally, sometimes figuratively: according to the purpose which is to be answered.

Ch XVI 16 to 24. You shall see me and you shall not see me &c.

25. ‘Now proverbs, soon, plain speech.

26 to 33. the last He says he leaves the world and goes to the Father: say they—you now speak plainly: nonsense on both sides.

N.B. verse to exactly this same effect at the beginning of the chapter after which they made no such observation All this is to shew that he foresees his approaching end

Ch. XVII

1. to 26 (the last). Prayer of Jesus to the Father — disciples as before present — Vague stuff about I in thee and thou in me, and glorification given by the father to Jesus and by Jesus to them

9. ‘I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me: more and more tending to keep up their attachment

Ch. XVIII. XIX. XX. XXI. Arrestation, Death Ascension &c added to the Harmony of the three other Evangelists

Ch. XXI is the last
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