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1817 Dec 31 Not Paul III. Doctrine

1817 Dec 31

Not Paul

III. Doctrine

Ch.1. Asceticism

Under this state of things every system of [...?] and morals is a tissue of

inconsistencies: a mixture of utility and asceticism: vice and virtue proportionably

confounded.

Pretences. 1. shape or source impure.

2. sensual i.e. bodily pleasure warred against in the lump. How far such mischievous

doctrine is [...?] accident. Mind more noble than the body:

noble [...?]

What is good in this might be much better advocated and supported on the ground of

utility.

Various are the grounds or pretences on which this war against every thing that is

good has been raised and kept up /on foot/. Among the most common is that which bears

relation to the shape in which the pleasure is enjoyed, or in

other words (for it comes to much the same thing) the source

from whence it is derived, or the seat in which it has

place—the source from whence it is derived the shape in which

it makes its appearance and is enjoyed.

In every instance be the pleasure in question what it may, the seat of it is either

in the body /bodily faculties/, in the mind or in both. Against all those pleasures

which On /For/ no other ground /cause/ than that of their having their seat in the

body against all those pleasures which have their seat in the body, /unceasing/ war

is made and kept up without ceasing. And why? it is forsooth for some such reason as

this—viz. that of the two component parts of the compound animal /creature/ the mind

is more noble than the body—the pleasures of the mind more noble than the pleasures of the body. But by the word more noble what is meant? either it means greater viz. in respect either of intensity or duration, or it means nothing

and is so much nonsense. Take any pleasure of the body and compare it with a pleasure

of the mind: if it is not greater but less, here then in case of competition is a

reason—a genuine reason for preferring to it /taking up/ the pleasure of the mind and

letting go the pleasure of the body: if not less but greater, here then is no

sufficient reason for letting go the pleasure of the body.

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Title: [1817 Dec r 31 Not Paul III]

Description: 1817 Dec r 31
Not Paul
III. Doctrine
Ch. Asceticism
From what has just been said, the following position, without danger of
contradiction on any rational grounds may be laid down, viz.
No just condemnation can justly be passed on any pleasure on any such consideration
/ground/ as that of its shape, seat, source, or inlet: the seat in which it resides or is
perceived, the inlet
(a) through which it passes to the /its/ seat, the source from which it is derived, or the shape in which it exists, the seat in which it resides, the source from whence
it is derived, or the inlet through which it is derived.
Note.
(a) Though not the seats nor the sources, the ear and the eye and
the ear are in the instance of every individual the necessary inlets to a large proportion of such pleasures of the mind as it falls in
his way to enjoy: viz. to all those derived from human converse /discourse/ whether
in /by/ signs audible or visible whether from hearing or reading.
So likewise in the case of all the rest of the fine arts—Music painting &c.
&c. let the seat be in ever so large proportions of it in the mind, the
necessary inlet to it is through /in/ the body.
JB_161_260.xml

Title: [1817 Dec 31 Not Paul III. Doctrine]

Description: 1817 Dec 31
Not Paul
III. Doctrine
Ch. Asceticism
In so far as they are /it is/ greater, and come in competition with the pleasures /a
pleasure/ of the body and the pleasures of the body true it is that the pleasure of
the mind is better worth than the pleasure of the mind: true: but this is no less
true of every pleasure of the mind.
It is only in so far as competition has place in so much that by embracing the one a
man necessarily foregoes the other that in the superiority of value were it ever so
real and constant any rational cause for the foregoing of any pleasure of the body
could /can/ be found. But unless by accident between the pleasures of the body on the
one hand and the pleasures of the mind on the other no such competition really has
place—and by accident the like competition be the pleasures respectively what they
may—pleasures of the body or pleasures of the mind the like competition has place
between every pleasure and every other.
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Title: [[Front page of full-folio wrapper, very torn]

Description: [Front page of full-folio wrapper, very torn and damaged]
Packet IV.
1817.
Not Paul.
III. Doctrine.
Asceticism for Vol. III
to be published not till
afterwards.
[Before folio 215]
Not Paul Part III Doctrine 1 Asceticism
Ch. 1. Paul’s false Doctrines: viz. 1. Injunction of Ascetic practices - Asceticism -
its mischievousness - its want of sanction from the principles or practice of Jesus.
Positions to be proved.
[Around folios 215 to 224]
Not Paul III. Doctrine Asceticism
Ch. 1. Principle of Utility - its dictates in relation to pleasure
§. 1. Principle of Utility what - its relation to pleasure and pain
§. 2. Senses - their double function
§. 3. Principle of Utility - its dictates in relation to pleasure.
[Around folios 225 to 226]
Not Paul
III. Doctrine Asceticism
Ch. 2 Utility
§. 2. Senses - their double function.
[Around folios 227 to 233]
Not Paul III. Doctrine Asceticism
Ch. 2 Utility.
§ 3 Utility - its dictates in relation to pleasure
[Around folios 234 to 238]
Ch 2 Asceticism. what -
§. 1. Asceticism - what - asceticism restrictive and afflictive - its relation to
Happiness, Pleasure and Pain
[Before folio 239]
III Doctrine.
Ch. 3 Asceticism continued 2 o
War made by Asceticism against the eccentric pleasures of the bed - its groundlessness -
its causes - its inconsistencies
§. 1 its groundlessness considered in a general view
§. 2. its causes
§. 3. Groundless charges employed: 1. supposed injury to population
§. 4. — 2. Imaginary deterioration of the lot of the female sex.
§. 5 — 3. Imaginary injury to personal security - Blackstone examined
§. 6. Inconsistencies in the war thus made
§. 7. Causes of the peculiar asperity of the vituperation lavished upon this mode.
[Around folios 239 to 245]
III Doctrine
Ch. Asceticism
§. 2. Pursuit of pleasure - limits set to it by Virtue
Asceticism is Vice.
[Around folios 246 to 257]
Not Paul III. Doctrine Asceticism
Ch. 3. Asceticism - its mischievousness and absurdity false arguments in support of it.
§. 1. Asceticism what - restrictive and positive - its relation to Happiness, pleasure
and pain
§. 2. Pursuit of pleasure - Limits set to it by Virtue i.e. by Self-regarding Prudence,
and effective Benevolence - Asceticism is Vice
§. 3. Happiness and Virtue how injured by Asceticism in an indirect way.
Genuine and useful obligations elbowed out by spurious and mischievous ones
§. 4. Inconsistency inseparable from Asceticism
§. 5. Preaching in support of Asceticism mischievous
§. 6 Pretences employed by Asceticism for the interdiction of pleasure
[Around folios 246 to 247]
III. Doctrine.
Ch. 2 Asceticism
§ 3 Happiness and Virtue, how injured /diminished/ by Asceticism in an indirect way -
Genuine and useful obligations elbowed out by mischievous and spurious ones.
[Around folios 248 to 253]
Not Paul III. Doctrine - Asceticism
Ch
§. 4 Inconsistency inseparable from /essential to/ Asceticism.
[Around folios 254 to 257]
III Doctrine Asceticism
Ch. 2
§. 5.[?] Preaching in support of Asceticism - its mischievousness.
[Around folios 258 to 265b]
III. Doctrine
Ch 2 Asceticism.
§. 6. Pretences employed by Asceticism for the interdiction of pleasure
[Around folios 266 to 269]
III. Doctrine.
Ch. 2 Asceticism continued 1 o
§ War made by Asceticism against the pleasures of sense in general - its groundlessness.
[Around folios 270 to 272]
III. Doctrine
Ch Asceticism continued
War made by Asceticism upon the eccentric pleasures of the bed - its groundlessness -
its causes - its inconsistencies.
§. 1. - its groundlessness
[Before folio 273 (single sheet, unfolded)]
III. Doctrine
Ch. Asceticism continued 2 o
§. 1. War made by Asceticism against the eccentric pleasures of the bed - its causes -
[Around folios 314 to 322]
III. Doctrine.
Ch. 4. Asceticism continued 3 o
Evils produced by the pleasures of the bed in this ordinary mode
Remedies to them interdicted by Asceticism.
§. 1. Idem
[Around folios 323 to 335]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 5. Asceticism continued - Suicide, the all-comprehensive remedy against all evils -
Groundlessness of the interdiction put upon it by Asceticism.
[Around folios 339 to 340]
Sex.
Ch. 12.
Aspect of Jesus towards the irregularities of the sexual appetite.
[Around folios 341 to 347]
Ch. 7. or 1. II Doctrine
In Jesus no Asceticism
§. 1. Negative proof. No ascetic doctrine ascribed in any one of the Gospels to Jesus -
Paul the only authority referred to for any such doctrines. Witness Bishop Gastrel in
his Institutes
[Around folios 348 to 352]
III. Doctrine Part II
Ch 8 or 2
Asceticism
Proof positive from discourse continued.
§.§. 1 Fasts scorned. Occasion hence taken to declare the utter abolition of the Mosaic
Law.
[Around folios 362 to 367]
III Doctrine
Ch.
Asceticism
Proof positive from discourse
§§ 2 1. Asceticism in regard to the pleasure of the table condemned - Occasion hence
taken to declare the utter abolition of the Mosaic Law
[Around folios 368 to 370]
Ch. 8. or 2
II. Doctrine
In Jesus no Asceticism.
Positive proof from discourse
§. 3. Sabbath scorned.
[Before folio 371]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 8. or 2. Part II In Jesus no Asceticism
§. 1. The Mosaic law including all its asceticism, abrogated on the occasion of the
condemnation passed in Pharisean[?] fasts
§. 2. Condemnation passed on the Mosaic asceticism in regard to Meats the pleasures of
the Table.
§. 3. Condemnation passed on Mosaic Asceticism in regard to the Sabbath
§. 4. Perfume accepted
§. 5. Condemnation passed on Mosaic asceticism in regard to pleasures of the bed 1. by
Liberation of the adulteress
§. 6. — 2. Samaritan women cohabiting without marriage are improved
§. 7. — 3. Harlots declared to go to heaven before Pharisees.
[Around folio 371]
Ch. 8 or 2
III Doctrine
In Jesus no Asceticism
Positive proof from discourse
§. 4 Pretious perfume accepted and approved.
[Around folios 372a to 380]
Ch 8. or 2.
II Doctrine
In Jesus no Asceticism.
§. 5. Positive proof from discourse continued
3 Liberation of the adulteress
[Around folios 381 to 383]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 8. or 2.
Asceticism
Proof positive from discourse
§. 7. 3. Harlots declared to go to heaven before Pharisees
[Around folios 384 to 390]
Ch. 9. or 3
III Doctrine
Ch. In Jesus no Asceticism
Presumptive proof from his practice
§. 1. 1. Introduction
[Around folios 391 to 394]
Ch. 9 or 3 II. Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
III Presumptive proof from practice
§. 2. Intercourse with Mary Magdalene and other females.
[Around folios 395 to 410]
III Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
Ch. 9. or 3
Presumptive proof from his practice
§. 1. Introduction
§. 2 Intercourse with Mary Magdalene and other females
Paul’s notice of it
§. 3 Mary Magdalene - No warrant for supposing her a Prostitute.
§. 4 Origin of the supposition of her being a prostitute
[Around folios 395 to 410]
Ch.
II. Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
*5 III. Presumptive proof from practice
§ 3 Mary Magdalene no prostitute
 Post off to Appendix or Omitt?
[Before folio 411]
III Doctrine Part II
Ch. 10 or 4
In Jesus no Asceticism
Eccentric pleasures of the bed - the condemnation passed on those forms not any part of
the religion of Jesus
§. 1. In the allusion made by Jesus to the destruction of the ill-famed cities no
condemnation of the eccentric pleasures of the bed are contained
§. 2. The propensity to the eccentric pleasures of the bed, when reaped by consent, was
not the reported cause of the destruction of the ill-famed cities.
§. 3. With the exception of Paul in no Epistles of the Apostles is this or any other
ascetic condemnation contained.
[Around folios 431 to 433]
Ch. 10 or 4
III. Doctrine
Asceticism
§. 2 The propensity to the eccentric pleasures of the bed when reaped by consent, not
the reported cause of the consumption of the ill-famed cities
[Around folios 434 to 443]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 10 or 4
In Jesus no Asceticism.
§. 3. In the Epistles of the other Apostles no ascetic condemnation or precepts are
contained.
[Around folios 444 to 453]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 10. or 4
In Jesus no Asceticism
§. 1 By /In/ the allusions made by Jesus to the destruction of the consumed cities no
condemnation of the eccentric pleasures of the bed is contained
[Around folios 444 to 453]
Ch. 11 or 5 III. Doctrine
Ch
Asceticism
Condemnation passed in the Mosaic law on the eccentric pleasures of the bed - it had its
source in an illusion of the fancy.
[Before folio 454]
III. Doctrine
Part II
Ch. 12 or 6.
In Jesus no Asceticism
Irr.
Ch 12 or 6. Disregard shewn to the Mosaic prohibitions against the eccentric pleasures
of the bed.
§. 1. Story of the Young Levite and his Concubine, Judges XIX.
§. 2. Story of Jonathan and David.
§. 3. Houses of resort for this purpose protected under the Kings.
§. 4? In the discourses of the Prophets no condemnation of these pleasures is contained.
 To be inserted here or by itself?
[Around folios 454 to 456]
III. Doctrine Part II
Ch. 12 or 6
In Jesus no Asceticism Irr.
Ch. 7. Disregard shewn to Mosaic prohibitions against the eccentric pleasures of the bed
demonstrated /continued/
§ L[?] 1. Story of the Young Levite and his Concubine
[verso]
III Doctrine
Ch.
Asceticism
Proof positive continued -
Moses repealed
[Around folios 457 to 461]
Ch. 12 or 6
III. Doctrine Part II
Irr.
In Jesus no Asceticism
§. Disregard shewn to the Mosaic prohibitions against the eccentric pleasures of the
bed.
§.§. 2 2. Story of Jonathan and David.
[Around folios 462 to 463]
Ch. 12 or 6
III. Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
§. Disregard shewn to the Mosaic prohibitions against the eccentric pleasures of the bed
continued.
§.§. 3. 3. Houses of resort for this purpose protected under the Kings.
[Around folios 464 to 482]
III. Doctrine Part II
Ch. 12 or 6.
In Jesus no Asceticism
§. Disregard shewn to the Mosaic prohibitions against the eccentric pleasures of the bed
continued
§ 4 In the discourses of the Prophets no condemnation of the propensity in question is
contained.
 Insert in the body or post off to the Appendix
[Around folios 475 to 482]
Ch. 13 or 7
III Doctrine
In Jesus no Asceticism
The eccentric pleasures of the bed whether partaken of by Jesus?
§. 1. 1. Introduction
[Before folio 485]
Ch. 13 or 7.
III Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
The eccentric pleasures of the bed whether partaken of by Jesus.
2. Intercourse with the Apostle John.
[Around folios 487 to 499]
Ch 14 or 8
III. Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
The eccentric pleasures of the bed whether partaken of by Jesus.
§. 3. Intercourse with the stripling in the loose attire
[Before folio 500]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 14 or 8.
In Jesus no Asceticism
Irreg.
§. 4. Jesus and Socrates compared in this respect
[Around folios 503 to 507]
III. Doctrine
Ch. 14 or 8.
Asceticism
§ 1. How asceticism not being part of the religion of Jesus came to be received as such.
 This after the Chapter on Paul’s motives for introducing
Asceticism.
§. 2 ( To be written Jan. y 24. 1818. Non-Ascetic Sects extinguished
by the Ascetic.
[Before folio 502]
Ch. 13 or 7.
III. Doctrine Part II
In Jesus no Asceticism
The eccentric pleasures of the bed whether partaken of by Jesus.
§. 1. Introduction
§. 2. Intercourse of Jesus with the Apostle John ‘whom Jesus loved’.
§. 3. Intercourse of Jesus with the stripling in the loose attire.
§. 4. Jesus and Socrates compared in this respect.
[verso]
Jug. True.
1. Pr.
Ch.
[verso again]
Ch. 7.
v. Paul’s Miracles.
[Around folios 508 to 519]
Not Paul. III Doctrine.
Ch. 15. Relation of Paul’s Doctrines, Practice, and Motives to Asceticism
§. 1. Paul’s Motives for the application of asceticism to the pleasures of the bed.
[After folio 523]
Not Paul
III. Doctrine
Asceticism
Ch. 15 Relation of Paul’s Doctrines, Practice, and Motives, to Asceticism
§. 2. Paul’s Motives for not including the pleasures of the table in his condemnation of
the pleasures of the bed
§ 3 Paul’s condemnation of the eccentric pleasures of the bed
§ 4 Paul’s practice in relation to the pleasures of the bed.
[After folio 523]
Ch
III Doctrine
Ch. Relation of Paul &c to Asceticism
§. 1 Paul’s Motives for not including the pleasures of the table in his condemnation of
the pleasures of the bed.
[Back page of full-folio wrapper]
1817.
Bit Oayk,
IIII. Doctrine.
Asceticism.

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