1817 Nov. 27

Not Paul

II Doctrine

Ch In Jesus no Asceticism

§. 3 Proof from practice

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 See the whole of this Chapter John XXI.

John XXI. 1. to 7. After these things

After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the Sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.

There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the Sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.

Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.

But when the morning was now come Jesus stood on the shore; but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.

Then Jesus saith unto them, Children have yes any meat? They answered him No.

And he saith unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.

Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord he girt his fishers coat unto him (for he was naked) and did cast himself into the sea.

John XXI. 20 to 24. Then Peter turning about seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper; and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?

[Greek to be supplied]

Peter seeing him saith to Jesus Lord, and what shall this man do?

Jesus saith unto him, if I will that he tarry till I come? what is that to thee? follow thou me.

Then went this saying abroad amongst the brethren that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die: but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what {is that} to thee?

This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

Mark XIV. 46. ‘And they’ (Judas with his multitude) had their hands on him and took him. 47. And one of them that stood by, drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.’ v. 50. ‘And they all forsook him and fled. v. 51. And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body, and the young man laid hold on him. 52. And he left the linen cloth and fled from him naked.’
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    Description: 1817 Nov. 27

    Not Paul

    II Doctrine

    Ch In Jesus no Asceticism

    §. 3 Proof from practice

    1 In Diogenes Laertius regular information when each writing had for his παιδια[?]

    2 This not more pointed[?] than John’s expression

    3 In a country in which the [can’t read all this]

    4 No verse from the discourse of Jesus or any of his Apostles Epistles to suppose that this was regarded an an […?]

    John XIII. 21. to 26 When Jesus had thus said

    When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spoke. Not there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

    όν in the Greek όν, by which one alone, and not all the disciples together is spoken of as being the object of this love.

    23. [not worth transcribing all this Greek, I can’t read it properly. Could be supplied from Greek text of NT]

    Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spoke.

    He then lying on Jesus’ breast saith unto him, Lord who is it?

    Jesus answered, He it is to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop he gave it to Judas Iscariot the Son of Simon.

    John XIX. 25. 26. 27. Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

    When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy Son!

    Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

    John XIX. 34. 35. But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came thereout blood and water.

    And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

    John XX. 1 to 10. The first {day} of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

    Then she runneth and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre and we know not where they have laid him.

    Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.

    And he stooping down, and looking in, [saw] MS ‘say’. the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.

    Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie.

    And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

    Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw and believed.

    For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.

    Then the disciple went away again unto their own home.
  • Title: [26 Sept. 1815 Jug. True Ch]
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    Jug. True

    Ch. 108 Arrestation

    Pp. Time immediately after the supper: viz. per tres the bread breaking per John the feetwashing supper

    Place per tres, Olives Mount. per John over the brook Cedron: then per Matt. & Mark alone Gethsemane.

    Mark {while I shall pray} These three alone were the appointed Watchers

    Luke XXII 40. {Temptation} viz. to abandon him or join in giving him up.

    Matt. XXVI. {Zebedees} These then were the two favourites. John whom he ‘loved’ one of them.

    Matt {sorrowful} Mark {sore amazed} Matt & Mark {very heavy}

    Matt & Mark sorrowful unto death tarry and watch. What cowardice for a self intended conqueror! Compare it with American Savage fortitude. Compare it with the Jew Maccabees.

    Luke {Angel strengthening him} – And all to no purpose. Abundance more about his […?] anxiety to escape the arrestation thence exhortation to them to be vigilant they notwithstanding sleepy through despondency or indifference

    John {Fell to the ground} Another quasi miracle in John alone a miracle to no purpose.

    John {lost none} i.e. been the ruin of.

    Luke {Smite with the sword} Question reported. No answer till this stroke[?] had been made. Per John, the slayer Simon Peter: per tres, unnamed. Per omnes the ear struck off. Per Luke alone the ear healed. Did it immediately grow again? this a miracle and to no purpose, no one but the reporter Luke noticing it as such.

    Matt. {Legions of Angels} Sole reason for not commanding them that if so the Scriptures would not be fulfilled. What Scriptures? were there any that the Messiah instead of being a Conqueror should die in the attempt? Did he know of these Scriptures? If all his object was dying, how came he to be so afraid of it?

    Matt & Mark. Disciples {all forsook him and fled}

    Mark alone {Young man – linen cloth – fled naked} It looks as if this youth still stuck by him after the Apostles had left him. Is not John the Evangelist said to be the disciple John? Yet John the Evangelist takes no notice of his having been of the committee of three, taken apart from the other Apostles.

    Ch. 108

    Arrestation of Jesus – his faintheartedness – Notwithstanding his exhortation to watchfulness. Three favourite Apostles set to watch to prevent surprize – their sleepiness through despondency or indifference. Under the guidance of Judas the police come upon them by surprize – Attempt at defence by the sword short and fruitless

    Luke XXII 39 to 53. Matt. XXVI 30 to 58.  N.B Matt. XXVI 31 to 35 is taken out of order in the procedure[?] of the synopsis to confront with Luke’s account of the same matter. So Math. XIV 27. 28. 29. 26.
  • Title: [29 Sept. 1815 Jug. True Ch]
    Description: 29 Sept. 1815

    Jug. True

    Ch. 122 Sea appearance

    Time per John sole narrator not specified: except that it was after the last mentioned appearance

    Place, the shore of the sea of Tiberias

    Though by Synopsis placed before this is here placed after the appearance on the mountain at Galilee: […?] this was the place he had appeared.

    Nathanael of Cana in Galilee. By this meant probably the man in whom there was no guile supra Ch ||. but whose name is not among the 12 in any one of the 3 lists

    {The disciples knew not that it was Jesus} Why this incognoscibility thus repeated? Answer – to inculcate the proponents to belief without evidence.

    {He said unto them cast the net &c.} They take him for a stranger: and yet they impute to him the same miraculous knowledge of the fishing trade the manifestation of which was as per Ch || one of the miracles[?] of Jesus!

    {a little ship} A boat is in this history always called a ship.

    {That disciple whom Jesus loved}. This of chief proves that he was John Zebedee.

    {They saw a fire of coals &c.} Pic-nic dinner Jesus found fewel and bread: the disciples fish

    {This is now the third time} By this any greater number is negatived: in direct contradiction to the other Evangelists. He speaks of but one of those of which they any of them speak. He knew not of, or would not confirm these stories.

    {Jesus said to Simon Feed my lambs &c} This together with the power to forgive sins, the inculcation of credulity &c seems literally conclusive evidence that Johns Gospel was a recent fabrication of the Church of Rome

    {By what death Peter should glorify God} Another token as above

    {Disciple whom Jesus loved} again

    {Tarry till I come} In the forgery was this inserted, in order (by the circumstance of Johns great age of which the […?] remained) to confirm the assertion thus contained in it of his being the author?

    {We know that his testimony is true} i.e. I know that this &c

    {The world would not contain the books &c} Common hyperbole.

    Ch. 122.

    Fourth, fifth or sixth or seventh appearance: viz. to seven disciples at the sea of Tiberias. A dinner at which they provide fish; he bread and firing. Commission to Peter to feed sheep and lambs.

    Luke silent. Matt. silent. Mark silent. John XXI. 1 to 25.