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1817 Nov 29 Not Paul II Doctrine
1817 Nov 29

Not Paul

II Doctrine

Ch In Jesus

Loose garment

The multitude, by which on this occasion Jesus was invested was (Mark XIV 43) ‘a

great multitude: headed by the traitor Judas, they /it/ came from the constituted

authorities - ‘from the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders’ - but no one

of those functionaries made a part of it.

Seeing the stripling in this attire and in this company, some of the striplings or

‘young men’ who formed part of the multitude regarded him as it should seem cloathing

and the wearer together as a sort of prize: without incurring any such guilt as that

of inhospitality, and perhaps without need of using violence /violence/ the design

formed by them in of which the person of the wearer was the object might in one sense

be not unnaturally of the same complexion as that formed by the inhabitants of the

devoted city upon the two mysterious beings who were at once men and angels.

in order to partake of the sport or fun[?] as the phrase is,

whatever it might prove had joined themselves to the multitude.

If so so far as concerned /Be this as it may/ the garment it seems to have succeeded

so far as regarded the wearer, not: ‘he left the linen cloth and fled from them

naked.’ those among whom the part of the prize would have been to be shared were it

may well be imagined not of the class of those among whom a customer might have been

expected to be found.

Mark XIV. 52

[Greek]

And there followed him says the authoritative translation: And thus were following

him would have been a more literal and unambiguous one: the Greek being in the

imperfect tense. By the indefinite there followed room is left

for the supposition that the stripling had not been originally of the number of

Jesus’s followers, but had joined him not till after the rest had fled.
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