JB_172_277.xml

Title: [1820. Aug. 19. Rid Yourselves]

Description: 1820. Aug. 19.

Rid Yourselves

Lett. 3 Ultramaria Submissive

Creoles Willing

Note (a)

(a) Mine rents - meaning taxes on the

produce of the mines, as it comes out of the mine. In any account of the " Revenue received in America", I can not find any mention

made of any such rent or tax. In Townsend's journey through Spain spoken of in the

Introduction to these Letters II. 413, 2 d Edition, mention is

indeed incidentally made of " the tribute in gold and

silver": and, on that occasion, the rate of the impost is mentioned, as it

varied from period to period. Before the year 1776, but from what time is not mentioned, it had been one

fifth: rate, the same on silver and on gold. In that

year it is spoken of as being reduced to one tenth upon

silver, and one twentieth upon gold.

In the general account, which has been seen as above, of this same " Revenue received in America" no mention however appears of

any sum, received at the mines from the proprietors as such: " duties on gold and silver exported" is the name given to the only item in which mention is made of these precious metals as

contributing a source of revenue to government. Is it that, instead of being paid at the mine, what is paid was not paid but on exportation? If so, then whatsoever was expended or

hoarded by the proprietors and those who were employed by them - in a word,

whatsoever was not known to be exported stood exempted from

the tax.

JB_162_003.xml

Title: [[clxii. 3] 1820 July 24 Emancipation]

Description: [clxii. 3]

1820 July 24

Emancipation Spanish

Summary

I Creoles willing

The only sources from which any such supply can be looked for are - taxation at large, Mine-rents or Mine-taxes - duties and restraints on production and trade.

1. To Taxation at large, for such a purpose, voluntary submission could not long, on any tolerably assured grounds, be expected. It was by the opposite determination that the yoke of England was cast off by the American United States.

2. Payment of money to Spain by the occupiers of mines in Spanish America, whether under the name of rents or taxes would be considered as submission to taxation: if levied at all the contributions thus levied uopon the fruits of the land and labour of the people in Spanish America ought to be applied (they would think) in easement of the taxes borne by the people of the province or state in which the mines are situated, and not to the enrichment of strangers at so vast a distance. (a)

3. By restraints in production and trade imposed on the subject many by the ruling few, no net advntage in a pecuniary shape is derivable by any body: by those by whom, or those for the sake of whom, they are imposed. In so far as taxes on trade are imposed, correspondent restraints upon trade are indeed among the inseperable consequences: but from this net advantage is received or is now so expected, beyond the mere produce of the tax. (b)

4. Money which by Spaniards sent from Spain might be received in the shape of official emolument attached to official situations in Spanish America. From this source no relief in respect diminution of taxes would be experienced by the subject many in Spain: the benefit would be engrossed by the ruling few in that country.

Note (a) According to Townsend Journey through Spain II 413. 2d.

Edition King's utmost-exigible mine rent, on silver no more than 10 per cent; on gold, than 5 per Cent.

Note (b) In England this has of late been publickly recognized by persons of all descriptions. Merchants, Ministers, Members of the House of Lords Members of the House of Commons - not a dissenting voice. In Debates of both Houses in July 1820.

JB_116_109_001.xml

Title: [2 Aug. 1802 24 N.S. Wales 10 Admitting]

Description: 2 Aug. 1802 24 N.S. Wales 10

Admitting that facility of extraction is not increased by distance the

possible old staple

articles of this class may be disposed of

for this purpose

dismissed on this occasion with as much facility as the possible

new ones.

Gold and Silver miners might,

for any proof that could be given to the contrary be found to

exist in New South Wales: but Gold and Silver miners actually do exist and

in great abundance in Spanish America: and, even in those

already peopled countries, many are the miners of these pretious

metals that have been abandoned and every day continue to be

abandoned, for not continuing sufficiently

pretious to be worked. +

+ Garnier traductin To

A. V p. 132 Note XV. p. 1:

But while New South Wales was making the most of the possible gold and

silver mines and her sham gold mines (for counterfeit gold mines

have been no more wanting to her than

supposed new castles +) + Collins p. Ireland was enjoying her

gold

extracted from real mines. And this gold (so much more valuable is

Irish, than many a mass of Spanish gold) has hitherto with the help of

good management been actually found capable of bearing its own

charges.. It possesses, and that in the utmost perfection,

the property which I have already noted as altogether hopeless, in

regard to the bulk of Colonial produce. that of contributing

by the amount of it

It contributes

to the exigencies of government at home:

aye, and by the whole amount of it In America, the King of Spain is

glad to compound

for a tenth part of the

produce. li

li A. Smith B. l. Ch. xl.p Vol. i. p.

314 In Ireland, the King of Great Britain and Ireland receives

the whole. In , a gold mine is but a gold mine:

The

mine of Wicklow, besides being a gold

mine, is what is more valuable a mine of

places: and the places are not inferior in value to the gold. In what

degree the contributions of his Majesty's subjects in both Islands are

lessened by this internal

treasure

I pretend to know no knowledge beyond what

the amount of the produce furnishes. I have done my Lord: c

c Your Lordship shall never

find me making mountains out of mole-hills; a thousand in years,

little more or

less

less, is not matter for any thing beyond a joke.