1820 June 7

Emancipation Spanish

'.6. Creoles repugnant

What answers that possess any chance of proving satisfactory to those by whom the questions are put can be given to any such question is more than I am able to conceive.

As little can I conceive what it is that can prevent their putting to themselves and to one another all /any or all of/ these questions any or all of them. In /Among/ books and pamphlets which will be printed and circulated among them, will not there be those that will be teeming with such questions, with applications and in detail all over the field of trade, and in a word all over the field of governments Among /From/ the men of other nations that will be flocking ot them, and in particular from the Citizens of the United States will they not be continually hearing the equivalent of such /those/ questions?

Under the exploded government - the government of avowed despotism there was an answer to this. No publication shall in time future any more than in time past /discoveries in writing or in speech having for its object or its tendency, the giving rise or support to any such claims/ be suffered to find utterance in any part of any one of their Colonies: no foreigner shall be suffered to set his foot in any one of them any where. But under the new government principles incomparable with any such exclusion over Ireland. Already in Cuba, in Buenos Ayres, in Chile, in Venezuela, or New Granada not to speak of other provinces there are swarms of foreigners In Buenos Ayres and in Chile, they are declared by anxious for free communication with the United States.
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