22 Aug t 1808

Evidence

Issue in Equity

1. Equity judges when they try a cause upon proper evidence, which is not once in twenty times, direct an assize[?], in which case the question is tried before a jury, upon jury evidence p.1.

2. Useless fiction employed for this purpose - party forced to tell a lying story about a wager. p.1.

3. Impropriety of this device - It assumes that on condition of laying a wager any two persons have a right to the service of the church to compell every body to disclose to them whatever facts they choose to enquire about - a proposition expressly negatived by a decision of B.R. temp. Mansfield. p.2

1 - Apparent incongruity in combating by Reason what was not established by reason: but for combating prejudice, reason if not always an effectual weapon is the only one. p.1-
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  • Title: [27 Aug 1804 18 2 nd. 1]
    Description: 27 Aug 1804 18

    2 nd.

    1

    Jurisprudence

    Sometimes a precetent

    is so strictly followed, that a particular judgment founded

    upon special circumstances, gives rise to a general rule.

    2

    III 433.

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    to the courts of equity.... is, that the complainant hath no

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    3

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    property rules, of evidence, & rules of

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    c t, the fact usually directed to be tried

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    Scotch Reform To L d Grenville

    Resolut. 6

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