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Letter 13 or 27 Better Ultramaria rule Spain

[clxvii. 286]

1820 Aug. 19

Emancipation Spanish

Letter 22 or 27

Better Ultramaria rule Spain

Mode of riddance

In the dissolution of this union thus there would be no difficulty. But in the continuance of it on the other hand I see considerable difficulty: and I can not see how /consistently with the essentials of the Constitution/ the difficulty can be solved.

In every future Cortes in the very next that takes place which will be in less than two years, the numbers of members of the whole deputation, the numbers belonging to each of these two discordant parts and consequently the proportion between the two - members to depend upon the state /quantity/ of the population in the two countries: being to be in a certain proportion to that population: namely one for every 70,000 souls "of a certain description." In the European dominions the population is regarded as determined: the supposition being to be that it is the same as according to a census taken A o 1797 it was at that time: and thus far no difference that can have had place being likely to be attended with any practical inconvenience, /or considerable objection/ no difficulty presents itself. But in every one of the several American provinces, the Census remains to be taken: and in no one of them until the /a/ census have been taken any deputation can there be. The furnishing the Cortes with a deputy from that Cortes will therefore depend upon the local authorities on whom it will depend whether and where this same census shall be taken: an operation which especially in countries so circustanced is not quite so easily /and promptly/ performed as spoken of. In some the Constitution (Art. 30) supposes there exists perhaps at present a Census: but in so far as this happens to be true, /have place/ if he in whose custody or within his reach the census is - chooses that there should be no census, he has but to destroy the paper, and for a long time at least his will is done.
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    Male & female together, after deducting the number produced by all the disqualifications created by all those qualifications which we have seen with their exceptions, where shall we find the several groups of 70,000, by each of which a deputy to the Cortes may be sent? To this question an answer is furnished by Art. 30. For the population of the European dominions says that article, shall serve for the computation of the population, the latest census (viz) "that of the year 1797 until a new one shall have been capable of being taken."

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