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1820 Aug. 26 Emancipation Spanish
1820 Aug. 26

Emancipation Spanish

'. 9. Creole Deputation none

For determining this population in Spain there exists a census though of no later

date than 1797: and by /for this purpose to/ Art. 30. this reference is made to that

census is made. But in no one of the ultramarian provinces, for aught appears does

there exist any such thing as a census of any date. In every province if in any in

which there happens to be one the article indeed[?], by necessary inference where[?]

it to be made use of: for in express terms it declares /ordains/ that reference shall

be made to the latest and most authentic census's, or returns in existence. The

provision which it accordingly makes is that a census, viz. "one corresponding to the

abovementioned last Spanish Census in 1797" shall be made for the ultramarian

population. Well then till some time after this new Census has been made and

completed, that part of the deputation which is to come from the ultramarian

provinces can not come can not have been so much as chosen, nor the number of

deputies of which it is to be composed have so much as been determined.

In each province supposing no such Census made by whom is it to be made? Answer - By

Art. 335 paragraph 7 th By the provincial deputation of the

Province: that and no other is the authority provided

But this same provincial deputation by which existence is to be given to the Census

how is it itself to come into existence? Answer. By /By Article/ the same means, by

which and through the same preparatory stages through which the Cortes is to come

into existence. In each province till there has been a Census made there is to be no

provincial deputation appointed: /chosen/ and till there has been a provincial

deputation appointed, /chosen/ unless there happens to be a census already, there can

be no Census.
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  • Title: [1820. Sept. Emancipation Spanish]
    Description: 1820. Sept.

    Emancipation Spanish

    '. 9 Creole Deputation none

    1. Prescribed representation impracticable

    2. Past and present representation spurious

     Insert from Represent a no security N o 5.

    Commentary Proclamation not [...?]

    '. Under the Constitution as it stands, no such plan of representation as it

    professes to give, /establish/ can have place.

    If in every account the endeavour to maintain the dominion, even though success were

    sure, is so far from advisable, the impracticability of it, obtaining any such

    representation as it professes to give - the impracticablity of effecting any such

    /that/ purpose without a violation of the Constitution, while no violation would

    render success probable, /the maintenance probable/ will the less be regretted.

    Now so it is, that under the Constitution as it stands this part of the proposed

    deputation can not in future have place /never have place at all./ Of this

    impracticability the cause is altogether a simple one. Per Art \ZS\ the Election

    process Members From /In/ no Ultramarian Province can any Election of Members for the

    Cortes have place till a Census - an authorative account of

    the population of the province - has been made. /formed/ And in a province in which

    there exists not any such Census by no hands can it be made but by those of a local

    body the Provincial deputation the Members of which are not to be elected till after

    the election of deputies to the Cortes /from that Cortes/ has taken place. A. can not

    come into existence till B. has come into existence: and B. can not come into

    existence till A. has come into existence

     Give the proof from the Articles.
  • Title: [1821 April 1. Rid yourselves.]
    Description: 1821 April 1.

    Rid yourselves.

    Ultramarian deputat none

    Male & female together, after deducting the number produced by all the disqualifications created by all those qualifications which we have seen with their exceptions, where shall we find the several groups of 70,000, by each of which a deputy to the Cortes may be sent? To this question an answer is furnished by Art. 30. For the population of the European dominions says that article, shall serve for the computation of the population, the latest census (viz) "that of the year 1797 until a new one shall have been capable of being taken."

    Thus far there is no difficulty, comparatively speaking not much difficulty: for of that date & for the European dominions a census is in existence.

    But now comes Ultramaria and there shall be formed continues the article a correspondent census for the computation of the population of the Ultramarian dominions, employing in the mean time, or as to these parts, the most authentic censuses among those which have been latest formed.

    Now then of all those /the/ several Ultramarian Provinces in number, how many are there in each of which a census is at present in existence? I should not be much surprised if not a single one can be found. If anysuch there be the list of them must have been known in the office of the Minister of the Colonies & was known & might & ought to have been known - if not, to those who framed the Constitution of 1812 to those who adopted & renewed it of 1820.

    What I should not be surprised to find is - that of those Ultramarian Provinces there is not so much as one in which any such census is at present in existence: what I sh d be much surprised if I did not find is - that in some one or more of them no such census is in existence. Let there be any one such, in this case for no part of such province can any such deputation be sent.
  • Title: [1821 April 2 Rid Yourselves]
    Description: 1821 April 2

    Rid Yourselves

    Ultramarian Deputat n none

    2. Another observation is, that at the time, whatever it be, at which the census is to be made, the only hands by which, if they existed, it could be made, can not be in existence. No provincial deputation in this province can there be without an already-existing census: but, by the supposition, in this same province, no such census is there in existence.

    But, it may be said, a Census of this sort - can it be taken by some other hands? I answer - not under this Code assuredly: for, by this Code, to no other hands is either this duty or this power allotted.