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'.1. Interests concerned.

According to the documents above brought to view in the Introduction,

the expenditure belonging to this head will not be much of any thing superior to the

whole of the expenditure employed upon really necessary and naturally useful purposes

But the welfare of the individuals of whom that class is composed

from as large a portion of the welfare of the whole state as the welfare of the same

number of individuals taken from any other class: and, to those whose situations

stand visibly exhibited upon the list of of offices, requires to be added all such

individuals belonging to any other productive classes, in so far as their subsistence

is in such sort dependent upon the consumption of those concurring classes, that,

upon the cessation of such consumption, their means of subsistence would alter

altogether, or to a degree more or less considerable, be extinct.

Of this counter demand, by which in this particular instance the

demand for retrenchment is opposed and limited, the application, it is to be

observed, reaches no further than to the present occupants of the situation in

question, with the addition of such expectants whose grounds of expectation as to

acquisition are as firm as are the grounds of expectation as to retention are in the

case of the possessors. The consequence is - that supposing the plea admitted, the

list, of the portions of expenditure susceptible of defalcation, will be reduced to

such offices as shall successively become vacant by the death of the present

possessors with the correspondent list if any such there be of expectants, as above

described.
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    Lett 2. Interests concerned

    not to be matched in any other country, in any age. If, therefore, the

    usefulness of this part of the official establishment to

    the whole nation taken together, were the only

    consideration to be adverted to, here is a mass of constant expenditure, from which,

    not merely might ample retrenchment be made, but of which,

    according to the above principles, were these the only ones that bore upon the

    subject, the entire aggregate might be struck off with

    indisputable advantage, and without detriment in any shape.

    According to the document above brought to view in the Introduction,

    the expenditure belonging to this one head can not be much,

    if any thing inferior, to the whole remainder of the

    expenditure employed upon really necessary and nationally useful purposes.

    But, the welfare of the individuals, of whom that class is composed,

    forms as large a portion of the welfare of the whole community as does the welfare of

    the same number of individuals taken together from any other class; and, to those

    whose situations stand visibly exhibited upon the list of offices, require to be added all such individuals belonging to any productive classes, in so far as their subsistence is in

    such sort dependent upon the consumption, of these consuming classes, that upon the

    cessation of such consumption, their means of subsistence would either altogether, or

    to a degree more or less considerable, be extinct. True it is - that of that which

    would in case of the retrenchment in question be lost to this part of the community,

    a great part would be gain to the whole of which they form a part. But, where the sum

    of money, or money's worth is the same and the number of sharers the same, the good

    produced by gain is far from being equal to the evil produced by loss. Moreover, of

    all sudden transfers of capital from one branch of production to others, one

    consequence is - a quantity more or less considerable of dead

    loss.

    You see the counterdemand, by which, in

    this particular instance, the demand for retrenchment is

    opposed and limited. Of this counterdemand the application,

    it is to be observed, reaches no further than to the present

    posessors of the situation in question, with the addition of such expectants, whose grounds of expectation as to acquisition are as firm as the grounds of expectation as to

    retention are in the case of the possessor. The consequence is that, supposing the plea admitted, the list of

    the portions of expenditure susceptible of defalcation, will be reduced to such

    offices, as shall necessarily become vacant by the death of

    the present possessors, with the correspondent list, if any such there be, of expectants, as above described.

    II As to The Clergy. In considering, on the

    one hand, the demand for retrenchment, on the other hand,

    the room for it as applied to this case,- no assumption

    need or ought to be proceeded upon, inconsistent with that, according to which,

    whatsover may become of the worldly interest of this short

    and
  • Title: [1820. Dec r. 31. Revised March 20]
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    Note

    Introduction

    '. 6. Tables - grounds of opinion

    Note (a) to Table III.

    (a) From the distribution thus made, inferences of no small

    importance can scarcely fail to present themselves to the most incurious eye. In

    class 1, the titles of the articles will serve as an object of comparison for the use

    of the present day:- at present, are there any of these that can be struck off? any

    others that requre to be added? Then, as to the sums

    belonging to each, allowance made for the difference in the value of money, those of

    the present day, what are they? will they bear subtraction?

    will they require addition? and for what reasons? and so on, in regard to the several

    articles belonging to the three other classes.

    By the amount of the articles in Class 2, will be seen the amount of the expenditure

    of the Monarchical form in Government, as contrasted with a Republican form; for

    example, that exemplified in the Anglo-American United

    States: with the 128,000,000 of reals vellon will be compared the 25,000 United

    States Dollars 500,000 reals vellon of thereabouts (Translator correct this) which

    form the official emolument of the Chief fuctionary in those republican states: and

    hereupon, by a review of the several articles, the question is suggested, on the one

    hand, by how much the condition of the people in Spain would be deteriorated, if

    those same articles were respectively struck out of the list: and, on the other hand,

    by how much the condition of the people of those United States would be improved, if,

    for the purpose of additional expenditure, under those several heads, the sums stated

    in a line with them, or some greater sums, were added to the official emolument, of

    the not very scantily provided chief functionary just mentioned. With correspondent

    instruction and advantage, the like questions might be applied to the several other

    European Monarchies: not forgetting France, England: not forgetting the several

    Monarchies of inferior rank which for the more effectual swelling of the amount of

    this branch of the public expenditure, have so lately been promoted into Kingdoms. How can it be otherwise? In all these, as well as

    all other Monarchies, the principle, acted upon, on this and all other occasions, is

    it not this? namely that (to use as far as it will go the wording of the Spanish

    Constitutional Code, Art. 13) "the proper end of all political society is nothing but

    the welfare of" then comes the separation - and instead of " the

    individuals who compose it, we must say - the one ruling

    individual. As to principle, a better than this

    Spanish one can not be desired. As to practice, whether its

    destiny be to be consistently acted upon, the event will, ere long, shew.
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    '.1. Interests conceived.

    the advancement of the interests of those of whose will they have been

    the expression and the result; all nets whatever therefore all portions of discourse

    expresses of the will of rulers of the rulers in itself. That they should have been

    directed to this and in preference to every other, follows from the undeniable and

    unalterable constitution of human nature In consequence it is to the interest that is so

    far as it has found them in opposition, every opposing interest, small and great narrow

    and extensive, that of the whole aggregate of the subject many not excepted, has of

    course has in all places and at all

    By the necessary constitution of human, nature, every human being, in

    the ordinary [...?] of his life, pursues his own interest in preference to every other:

    in preference even to all others put together: and thereby, in so far as in his eyes

    competition has place, to the sacrifice of every other: for a propensity, without which,

    it would in consideration by found, that the species could not for any length of time

    continue in existence. If then they are human beings, in the breasts of those by whom

    any share in the powers of government but at any time in any place been possessed and

    exercised, will this propensity have had place: and not only had place, but with fewer

    no exceptions have had its effect in correspondent acts. If this be admitted, it is

    thereby the advancement of the interests of those of whom will it has been the result:

    of those interests in preference to, and in case of competition, to the extent of such

    competition, at the expence of all opposite interests and to the sacrifice of all

    inteests as to the conception of the persons in qustion have at the time presented

    themselves as opposite to this rule there have been any exceptions, still, comparatively

    speaking - so rare have they, in all times, and in all places, been - that to act upon

    the supposition of their being in a preponderant degree probable can on no occasion be

    consistent with the dictates of human providence. as in the case of human acts in

    general, so more particularly in the case of acts of government, the act has, with few

    or no exceptions, had for its object

    1821 Feb. 19

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    '1. Interests concerned.

    On the part of every person possessed of political power a constant

    endeavour has accordingly been to advance his own particular interest, at the expence in

    so far as necessary to the sacrifice of the general interest and as well as of every

    particular opposing interest. To this endeavour, no bar but the persuasion of mobility

    to give effect to it, has ever, put a stop: has ever yet, or so long as human nature

    continues what it is ever can. This being the case with each human being taken singly,

    such can not but be the case with any number of beings, as that as in every other

    situation taken in the aggregate. Such therefore, in every country and at every time,

    been and will be the case with the ruling few, in their dealings with the subject many.

    To that endeavour, by nothing but the view of inability can any effectual bar be

    opposed: nor in this case can any bar to effectual, other than a power, on the part of

    the subject many, to remove the ruling few from their respective situations: and this

    with a promptitude deficient in every instance to anticipate the consummation of the

    sinister sacrifice.

    1822 July 21

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    Letter 2. Interests concerned

    In opposition to this maxim, by which in political situations the

    general predominance of self-regarding over social affection of asserted and stated as

    the only defensible foundation for political arrangements, vain would it be to bring to

    view any of those sacrifices, which in particular conjunctions, under some violent and

    short-lived excitement have sometimes been seen made. Idt is to the general tune of

    human conduct, and not to any extraordinary deviations from it, that all such

    arrangements should be adopted.

    If then, with few or no exceptions, this assertion of the general

    predominance of self-regarding over social affection is true of public men in general,

    to no one in particular can any application made of it be injurious.

    If there be any number of men each of whom is not on each occasion

    governed by what on that same occasion presents itself as his own most important

    interest (meaning always self-regarding interest) so small

    when compared with the remainder is the number of such men, and at the same time so

    enters the impossibility of distinguishing from men of ordinary mould men of this

    extraordinary mould,- and in particular so small the probability of their being found in

    the class of men high in the conjoint seats of power and opulence,- that, all these

    circumstances taken together, the only supposition, that, on any given occasion, can in

    regard be any one man so situated be rationally entertained, and acted upon, is - that

    in his [...?] or it is by his self-regarding interest, according to his own conception

    of it at the time, that his conduct will be determined.

    For this same reason, finding this persuasion in relation to him avowed

    by every other man, on no occasion can a man thus situated have just cause for

    complaint, much less for anger, and for vengeance.

    On this supposition do the ruling few invariably proceed in every

    instance, in which, for giving effect to the arrangements of which penal and civil law

    is composed, they make application of the matter of good and evil, in the shape of

    reward and punishment, in the exercise given by them to the power possessed by them over

    the subject many: and why, as applied to themselves there should be less truth in it, is

    a question to which it rests with them, or any one who on this occasion may be disposed

    to feel for them, to find an answer.

    For this same reason, by no protestations have retained so ever, can he

    give to any assertion of his to the contrary may take to credence: on the contrary the

    more vehement the protestation no more cogent the demonstration of insincerity,

    hypocrisy and effrontery.

    as often as they observe themselves spoken of as being obsequious to the

    universally applying and universally irresistible impulse

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    If, on finding his articulations or protestations to this effect

    disbelieved, a main thirst for vengeance should be inflamed to such a pitch as to render

    him eager to destroy the life of this or that individual the provocation is attributed

    and for the purchase of a chance of affording to the appelation its disastrous

    gratification, content to expose his own life to equal hazard, by no such dissocial

    passion would the truth of the assertion be rendered in any degree the more probable.

    As little would it, if in the same view he were to call God to witness,

    shedding at the same time tears in ever so large a quantity: all that would thus be

    proved is - that he had that secretion at command, and that as in the mouths of profane

    cursors and swearers the word God is an instrument of

    boistrous nuisance, so, in his, by the weakness of his hearers, he expects to find it

    converted into an instrument of privately profitable and publickly mischievous

    imposture. (a)

    Yet, every where but in the Anglo-American States, on no better ground

    than what is afforded by such pretences, passions and artifices,- as often as they are

    spoken of as being as other men are, are men in power loud and unceasing in their cries

    for vengeance: in their cries for it, and in their endeavours to obtain it.

    (a) Here comes the long Note consisting of four pages.

    1821 July 26

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    Lett. 2. Interests concerned

    Spaniards! forgive this digression, if such it can be called. In Vain,

    in this occasion or any other form in or any one else, would any address be made to you,

    should it have as well as find you satisfied to sacrifice your own to any opposing

    interest: in vain would any man seek to preserve you from such self-sacrifice, if in so

    far as in the occasion in question your rulers had an interst opposed to yours it were

    not known to you that they had, and to what kinds it applied. Yes: so sure as you and

    they exist, on this occasion as on every other, so far as depends upon the conduct of

    your rulers, whoever they are, the circumstance by which your lot "will be [...?] is the

    view of their own interests: on this occasion therefore as on every other, every thing

    depends on your having so ordered matters, as that their interests are in coincidence

    with your's, and to that purpose vain will be your endeavours, should you amuse

    yourselves with any such notion, as that in the natural state of things, and without any

    attention on your part to secure it, any such coincidence has place.

    1821 Feb y 19

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    Spaniards, that of which I myself entertain the most intimate

    persuasion, which persuasion, by submitting to you the grounds of it, I am now using my

    endeavours to communicate to you, is - that to the interest of you - the subject many,

    not only in Ultramaria but in Spain the union in question, even if effected to the

    interest itself, and without dispute, would in a preponderant degree be noxious and so

    long as it lasted continue so to be in every way imaginable.

    At the same time, among the ruling few there are classes, and those

    extensive ones, to the interests of which it would be beneficial, in so far as it had

    place without dispute: there are even those - and that to to whose interests no

    inconsiderable extent, to whom it would be beneficial notwithstanding dispute, some even

    not to whom by reason of the dispute and that not only in case of successs to this side

    of the dispute, but even in the case of failure.

    On the other hand, among those, to whose interests, on some accounts, or

    in certain events the union, and the endeavour to preserve or reestablish it as the case

    may be, would be beneficial, there are those to whom interests on certain other

    accounts, and in certain other events, such endeavour would, not only in reality, but

    not improbably in their own eyes respectively, be detrimental. In all those several

    instances then, should that permit which it in reality detrimental is the persons in

    question, be so in their eyes, in so far an example of the coincidence above spoken of

    between universal interest and particular interest would have place, and the persons in

    question would, each of them, while pursuing as to their part his particular interest,

    be at the same time by opposing the pernicious prospect, be pursuing and giving his

    support to the universal interest.

    1821 Feb. 19

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    '.1 Interests concerned

    As to the classes, to whose particular interests the union in so far as

    it had place without dispute would in a greater or less degree

    be beneficial. These may be stated to be the following: viz.

    I All functionaries, possessed or not possessed of power, to whom, in

    possession or expectancy, the union holds out a promise of any addition to emolument to

    the emolument attached to their respective situations: To this last may in a more

    particular manner referred.

    1. The Secretary of dispatch for Ultramaria, and his subordinates: viz.

    in respect of direct emolument or patronage is both.

    2. The Secretary of dispatch for Money and Justice, and his d o in respect of d o.

    3. The Secretary of dispatch for Finance: and his d o

    in respect of d o.

    4. The Secretary of War: and his d o in respect of

    d o.

    5. The Secretary for Maritime affairs: and his d o in

    respect of d o.

    6. The Members of the Council of the Indies: and their d o in respect of d o.

    7. The Commander of the Army: and his d o in respect

    of d o.

    8. The principal Commander of the Navy: and his d o

    in respect of d o.

    9. The Members of the Judicial Establishment: in respect of such

    Ultramarian judicial situations as may be fitted by Spaniards: and in respect of any

    causes capable of being brought from Ultramaria before a Spanish Judicatory..

    10. The Clergy: in respect of such benefices in Ultramaria as may come

    to be fitted by Spaniards.

    11. The Members of the Cortes: in respect of such patronage as may be

    exercised by them through the intervention of the Members of the Administration, as

    above.

    12. All Expectants in violation to any of the above several situations.

    13. The King, the Royal family and their personal servants of all ranks:

    in respect of indirect patronage, as above.

    14. Grandees and other persons of opulence and rank, in respect of their

    influence with relation to functionaries sharing in the power of patronage.

    II To those may be added, as not comprised in the class of

    functionaries.

    II. Merchants, Manufacturers and Artisans enjoying or expecting

    emolument, in the way of encrease of trade or otherwise from any prohibitory,

    restrictive, or other anti-commercial regulations, imposed or expected to be imposed,

    upon Ultramaria or any part of it.

    16. D o, engaged in the production, importation or

    such of any of the articles, the use or consumption of which will be or will be expected

    to be, encreased by preparation for eventual war, against or on account of, any part of

    Ultramaria.

    17. Political Writers or Orators expecting emolument or d o expectation by advocating the claim of dominion over Ultramaria.

    1821 Feb. 20

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    18. In Ultramaria itself all such persons, of whatever class and rank,

    to whom it may happen to stand indebted, or to regard themselves as standing indebted,

    or to be in expectation of standing indebted, for any share of emolument, power or

    destruction, from the possession or the claims of Spanish dominion or influence in

    Ultramaria.

    II. In case of dispute, and in proportion to the extent of it, may be

    added, in respect of the addition produced by war to the quantity of the patronage, all

    the above fourteen classes: with no other exception than that of Class 9 th composed of the Clergy.

    Also the mercantile Class N o 16 in respect of the

    addition made by actual war to the quantity of war articles, the demand for which cannot

    but be kept up by the state of constant preparation, realizing from the continuance of

    the dominion, or of the claim to it, even though no actual dispute should in the event

    have place.

    1821 Feb. 20

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    Interests concerned

    Against the mass of interest, sinister interest as it surely may be

    denominated, at any rate in so far as its tendencey is to give encrease by expence to

    fired[?] military service and in both ways to the mass of public burthens may be set the

    mass of interests to which the dominion or claim in question may, in itself or in their

    eyes, be adverse:- /detrimental:-/ those are the interests of those classes, at whose

    expence in any extraordinary proportion it may happen to the claim to be pursued.

    There are two sources, and from which above, from which, any expenditure

    emplyed in the support of the dominion or claim in question is capable of being derived.

    These are taxation and retrenchment.

    If there by any persons, and in particular any public functionaries, in

    whose eyes the class to which they belong will appear to be in any particular manner or

    degree exposed by the claim in question to loss in either of those shapes, these will

    accordingly have in so far a particular interest adverse to the claim in question: a

    particular interest, which stands in opposition to their above merits and sinister

    interest, will, by the amount of its force, make a proportion additional to the force of

    the universal and uniformly legitimate interest of the whole community. In the instance,

    if each person so circumstanced, according as in his eyes, the value of his particular

    and sinister interest on the one hand, or on the other hand the value of his legitimate

    though particular interest, added to that of his share in the universal interest is the

    gratis, will be the part he takes, as to the given, support for the claim in question,

    or which in /making/ opposition to it.

    1821 Feb. 21

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    The worse the state of the /a/ government is in respect of economy, the

    more decided is the impracticability of providing for the difference between existing

    suppliers and indispensable exigences, by additional taxation: in the same proportion

    therefore has place the necessity of having recourse to retrenchment.

    This considered, the following are the classes of functionaries, the

    pecuniary provision for which will naturally present itself as being, in the nature of

    the case, in the greatest degree susceptible of retrenchment: and whose interest, in

    proportion as a decision has place that retrenchmetn is the means f supply that can not

    but be resorted to for the satisfaction fo the exigencies in question, will be

    acknowledged even by themselves to stand in this respect in coincidence with, and will

    operate in support of the universal interest. For this kind may be referred

    I The King, her family, and houshold, including the [...?] of all ranks

    receiving payment for personal services, rendered or supposed to be rendered, to [...?]

    or [...?].

    II. The Clergy. III. The Public Creditors: In relation to each of these

    Classes, considered in an extraordinary degree exposed to suffer from retrenchment, a

    free observation may here be not without this use. 1. As to the King, and his personal

    dependents as justmentioned.

    That, considered with reference to the universal interest the expence

    belonging to this kind is not, in any part of it necessary to the king, nor yet to the

    well-being, of government, as is demonstrated by this circumstance that in the

    Anglo-American United States not a particle of it has place: and beyond possibility of

    critislation[?], in that cluster of two and twenty representative democracies, the

    people, in so far as depends upon the nature of the government are in a state of

    felicity, not to be matched in any other country in any age. If therefore the usefulness

    of the part of the official establishmetn to the whole value taken together were the

    only consideration to be adverted to, here is a mass of constant expenditure, from which

    not merely might ample retrenchment be made, but of which, according to the above

    principles, were these the only ones that bore upon the subject, the entire aggregate

    might be [...?] off with indisputable advantage - and without detriment in any

    shape.