1821 Feb y 21

Rid Yourselves

Interests concerned

11. Clergy

II The Clergy. In considering on the one hand the demand for

retrenchment, on the other hand the room for it as applied to this case, no

assumption and or ought to be here [...?] upon, inconsistent with that, according to

which, whatsoever may become of the worldly interests of this short and transitory

life, the Catholic Religion ought above all things to be preserved: preserved, in

whatsoever degree of party and benefaction it possesses, or is susceptible of.

But, that to the maintenance of this religion in any /assignable/

degree of perfection, not a maraveda is necessary to be provided by fixed

contributions, or by fixt masses of property kept on foot for the purpose, is matter

of expression. It is so in all countries in which the Catholic Religion, which it has

not only its professors but its functionaries, is not the established religion of the

State It is so accordingly in England, in Scotland in Ireland, in Denmark, in Sweden,

in various parts of Germany to a great extent, in the Kingdom of Prussia, and in the

Prussian Empire: not to speak of the Anglo-American United States.

In Spain, as in other countries in which the Catholic Religion stands

established, the whole body of the Clergy taken in the aggregate stands

distinguishable into two very marked divisions: the class called that of the regular

Clergy, and the class called that the secular Clergy. That

of the regular Clergy has thus for its distinctive character: namely, that by none of

these services rendered in any shape to any living individual /assemblage of

individuals/ in particular. Accordingly, these have not, properly speaking, a place

upon the list of functionaries.

To this part of the list belongs - not only each of the Clergy as

belongs to this or that Monastic Order, but the possessors of all benefices which as

were of sorts is attached.
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    and transitory life, the Catholic Religion

    ought, above all things, to be preserved: preserved, in whatsoever degree of purity and perfection it possesses

    or is susceptible of.

    But, that, to the maintenance of this religion in any assignable

    degree of perfection, not a maravedi is necessary to be provided by forced contributions, or by fixt masses

    of property kept on foot for the purpose, is matter of experience. It is so

    in all countries in which the Catholic Religion, while it has not only its professors

    but also its functionaries, is not the established religion of the state. It is so accordingly, in England, in Scotland, in Ireland, in Denmark, in Sweden, in various parts of Germany to a great extent, in the Kingdom of Prussia

    and in the Russian Empire: not to speak of the Anglo-American United States.

    In Spain, as in other countries in which

    the Catholic Religion stands established,- the whole body of the Clergy, taken in the aggregate, stands distinguishable into two very marked

    divisions. The class called that of the regular clergy, and the class called that of the secular clergy. That of the regular clergy has this for its distinctive character: namely, that by none of

    its Members as such, is religious

    service rendered, in any shape, to any living

    individual or assemblage of individuals in particular, to the exclusion of any

    others. Accordingly, these have not, properly speaking, a place upon the list of functionaries.

    To this part of the list belong - not only such of the clergy as

    belong to this or that Monastick order, but the possessors

    of all benefices to which no cure of

    souls stands attached.

    In regard to the secular clergy, no other assumption can I suppose on

    this occasion, be preceeded upon, than that of the necessity of the demand for the

    services of a number correspondent to that of the offical situations at present in existence. In the Catholic Church, the offices

    possessed by them stand distinguishable into Sacerdotal and

    Episcopal. The necessity of the office itself being in

    each case admitted, and office and officers together thus perserved from the

    retrenching knife, remain for a subject of proposable retrenchment the amounts of the

    respective bands, tithes and

    masses of emoluments in every other shape as to this

    matter, the case of Ireland

    would
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    II Clergy

    In regard to the secular Clergy, no other assumption can on this

    occasion be proceeded upon, than that of the necessity of the demand for the services

    of a member correspondent to that of th official situation at present in existence.

    In the Catholic Church the offices possessed by them stand distinguishable into

    Sacedotal and Episcopal. The necessity of the office itself being in each case

    admitted, and the officers themselves thus preserved from the defalcating knife,

    remain for a subject of proposable defalcation the amounts of the negative kinds, to

    this, and masses of emolument in every other shape: and as to this matter, the case

    of Ireland may afford an instructive example. Under all the hardships imposed by the

    inhumanity and persecuting spirit of the English government has the Catholic

    population since the Revolution for example diminished?- no: it has increased: it has

    doubled. +

    To the case of both these sections of the Clergy the same demand

    /observation/ applies as to the case of the Royal family and their dependents, as to

    the regard does to prevent possession and established expectancy. But as applied to

    the whole of the Clergy retrenchment deserves facility from a particular circumstance

    which has no place in that other case. This, as every body sees, is celibacy: a circumstance whereby that portion of the demand

    for maintenance which regards wife and children stands defalcated.

    Monastery[?] from this same mind greater than that for the Monastical

    class

    Suppose retrenchment applied to this class, if in any number of actual possessors,

    expectants in established expectancy, remained uncompensated, inadequately

    compensated, whatsoever that number, proportionable quantity of suffering - of

    sensible evil - of the only real evil - would be produced. On the other hand, so long

    as all were adequately compensated, the whole mass of property existing in such hands

    might be applied to the exigencies of the whole nation, and yet no sensible evil - no

    evil code - be produced.
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    would, of itself, suffice to afford not merely an instructive, but a

    most perfectly conclusive, example. Under al the hardships imposed by the spirit

    unfeeling and unchangeably despotic and oppressive spirit of the English Government,

    has the Catholic population since the Revolution for example diminished? no: it

    has + encreased: it has more than doubled trebled: it has

    received greater encrease than the dominating sect has.

    To the case of both of these sections of the clergy, the same

    observation applies, which applies to the case of the Royal

    family and their dependents, as to the regard due

    to the present possession and established expectancy. But, as applied to the case of the clergy, retrenchment derives facility from a particular

    circumstance, which has no place in that other case. This, as every body sees, is celibacy: a circumstance, whereby that portion of the demand

    for maintenance which regards wife and children stands

    defalcated.

    Suppose retrenchment applied to this

    class,- if, in any number, actual possessors, or expectants in established

    expectancy, remained uncompensated or inadequately compensated, whatever were that

    number, a proportionable quantity of suffering - of sensible

    evil - of the only real evil - would be produced.

    On the other hand, so long as all were adequately compensated, the whole mass of the property at any given time

    existing in such hands, might be applied to the exigencies of the whole nation, and

    yet no sensible evil - no real

    evil - be produced.

    Whatever labour is bestowed on /has been destined to/ the production

    of the wealth employed in defraying the personal expense of any member of the clerical order, over and above what is voluntarily bestowed

    upon him for professional service, is employed in a manner /has been destined to a

    purpose/ not merely useless, but much worse than useless. It has moreover been

    accepted by him, in contempt and defiance of the precepts of Him by whom it was said

    (Luke X. 24) - " how hard is it for them that trust in riches to

    enter into the Kingdom of God!" In deeds - evidence

    so much more conclusive than it is in the power of words to be - in deeds, it is a

    declaration of unbelief in the divine authority of that precept. In riches - (that is to say, in the corruptive and delusion, which, in proportion as

    they are thus bestowed and employed, they diffuse) - in riches and riches alone, is the trust of all

    those, who, on pretence of support given to the religion of

    Jesus contribute to

    the employment

    Note

    In the Table exhibiting an Abstract of the Population in Ireland

    lately printed for the use of the House of Commons, See Ed. Review for the years

    1820. No. p