1821. Aug. 3

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Lett 2. Interests concerned

according as, the value of his particular and

sinister interest on the one hand, or the value of his right and proper though particular interest, added to that of his share in the universal interest,

is, in his eyes the greater, determined by the view he thus takes of the two

contending interests will be the part he takes, as to the giving support to the claim

or making opposition to it.

The worse the state of the /a/ government

is in respect of economy, the more decided is the

impracticability of providing for the difference between existing supplies and

indispensable exigencies, by additional taxation: in the

same proportion therefore has place the necessity of having recourse to retrenchment.

This considered, the following are the classes of functionaries, the

pecuniary provision for which will naturally present itself, as being, in the nature

of the case, in the greatest degree susceptible of retrenchment: and whose particular

interest, in proportion as retrenchment is understood to be

the means of supply, that can not but be resorted to, for the satisfaction of the

exigencies in question,- will, even by these classes themselves be acknowledged to

stand in this respect in coincidence with, the universal interest, and will

accordingly operate in support of it.

To this head may be referred the classes following. I can not find

any others.

I. The King, his family and household,

including the persons of all ranks receiving payment for personal services, rendered,

or supposed to be rendered, to him or them respectively.

II. The Clergy.

III. The Creditors of the Nation: called

for shortness the Public Creditors.

In relation to each of these classes, considered as in an

extraordinary degree exposed to suffer from retrenchment, a few observations may here

be not without their use.

1. As to the King and his personal dependents, as just mentioned.

That, considered with reference to the universal interest, the

expence belonging to this head is not in any part of it necessary to the being of government nor yet to the well-being of it has

received the fullest demonstration from experience. In the Anglo-American United

States, not a particle of it has place: at and the same time in that cluster of two

and twenty representative democracies, the people, subject

many and ruling few together in so far as depends upon the nature of the government,

are, and for these forty years and upwards have been, in a state of felicity

uninterrupted, such of them as have come successfully into existence.

not
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    '.1. Interests concerned.

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    '.1. Interests conceived.

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    '1. Interests concerned.

    On the part of every person possessed of political power a constant

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    particular opposing interest. To this endeavour, no bar but the persuasion of mobility

    to give effect to it, has ever, put a stop: has ever yet, or so long as human nature

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    In opposition to this maxim, by which in political situations the

    general predominance of self-regarding over social affection of asserted and stated as

    the only defensible foundation for political arrangements, vain would it be to bring to

    view any of those sacrifices, which in particular conjunctions, under some violent and

    short-lived excitement have sometimes been seen made. Idt is to the general tune of

    human conduct, and not to any extraordinary deviations from it, that all such

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    complaint, much less for anger, and for vengeance.

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    instance, in which, for giving effect to the arrangements of which penal and civil law

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    the subject many: and why, as applied to themselves there should be less truth in it, is

    a question to which it rests with them, or any one who on this occasion may be disposed

    to feel for them, to find an answer.

    For this same reason, by no protestations have retained so ever, can he

    give to any assertion of his to the contrary may take to credence: on the contrary the

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    Lett. 2. Interests concerned

    If, on finding his articulations or protestations to this effect

    disbelieved, a main thirst for vengeance should be inflamed to such a pitch as to render

    him eager to destroy the life of this or that individual the provocation is attributed

    and for the purchase of a chance of affording to the appelation its disastrous

    gratification, content to expose his own life to equal hazard, by no such dissocial

    passion would the truth of the assertion be rendered in any degree the more probable.

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    for vengeance: in their cries for it, and in their endeavours to obtain it.

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    Lett. 2. Interests concerned

    Spaniards! forgive this digression, if such it can be called. In Vain,

    in this occasion or any other form in or any one else, would any address be made to you,

    should it have as well as find you satisfied to sacrifice your own to any opposing

    interest: in vain would any man seek to preserve you from such self-sacrifice, if in so

    far as in the occasion in question your rulers had an interst opposed to yours it were

    not known to you that they had, and to what kinds it applied. Yes: so sure as you and

    they exist, on this occasion as on every other, so far as depends upon the conduct of

    your rulers, whoever they are, the circumstance by which your lot "will be [...?] is the

    view of their own interests: on this occasion therefore as on every other, every thing

    depends on your having so ordered matters, as that their interests are in coincidence

    with your's, and to that purpose vain will be your endeavours, should you amuse

    yourselves with any such notion, as that in the natural state of things, and without any

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    1821 Feb y 19

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    Spaniards, that of which I myself entertain the most intimate

    persuasion, which persuasion, by submitting to you the grounds of it, I am now using my

    endeavours to communicate to you, is - that to the interest of you - the subject many,

    not only in Ultramaria but in Spain the union in question, even if effected to the

    interest itself, and without dispute, would in a preponderant degree be noxious and so

    long as it lasted continue so to be in every way imaginable.

    At the same time, among the ruling few there are classes, and those

    extensive ones, to the interests of which it would be beneficial, in so far as it had

    place without dispute: there are even those - and that to to whose interests no

    inconsiderable extent, to whom it would be beneficial notwithstanding dispute, some even

    not to whom by reason of the dispute and that not only in case of successs to this side

    of the dispute, but even in the case of failure.

    On the other hand, among those, to whose interests, on some accounts, or

    in certain events the union, and the endeavour to preserve or reestablish it as the case

    may be, would be beneficial, there are those to whom interests on certain other

    accounts, and in certain other events, such endeavour would, not only in reality, but

    not improbably in their own eyes respectively, be detrimental. In all those several

    instances then, should that permit which it in reality detrimental is the persons in

    question, be so in their eyes, in so far an example of the coincidence above spoken of

    between universal interest and particular interest would have place, and the persons in

    question would, each of them, while pursuing as to their part his particular interest,

    be at the same time by opposing the pernicious prospect, be pursuing and giving his

    support to the universal interest.

    1821 Feb. 19

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    '.1 Interests concerned

    As to the classes, to whose particular interests the union in so far as

    it had place without dispute would in a greater or less degree

    be beneficial. These may be stated to be the following: viz.

    I All functionaries, possessed or not possessed of power, to whom, in

    possession or expectancy, the union holds out a promise of any addition to emolument to

    the emolument attached to their respective situations: To this last may in a more

    particular manner referred.

    1. The Secretary of dispatch for Ultramaria, and his subordinates: viz.

    in respect of direct emolument or patronage is both.

    2. The Secretary of dispatch for Money and Justice, and his d o in respect of d o.

    3. The Secretary of dispatch for Finance: and his d o

    in respect of d o.

    4. The Secretary of War: and his d o in respect of

    d o.

    5. The Secretary for Maritime affairs: and his d o in

    respect of d o.

    6. The Members of the Council of the Indies: and their d o in respect of d o.

    7. The Commander of the Army: and his d o in respect

    of d o.

    8. The principal Commander of the Navy: and his d o

    in respect of d o.

    9. The Members of the Judicial Establishment: in respect of such

    Ultramarian judicial situations as may be fitted by Spaniards: and in respect of any

    causes capable of being brought from Ultramaria before a Spanish Judicatory..

    10. The Clergy: in respect of such benefices in Ultramaria as may come

    to be fitted by Spaniards.

    11. The Members of the Cortes: in respect of such patronage as may be

    exercised by them through the intervention of the Members of the Administration, as

    above.

    12. All Expectants in violation to any of the above several situations.

    13. The King, the Royal family and their personal servants of all ranks:

    in respect of indirect patronage, as above.

    14. Grandees and other persons of opulence and rank, in respect of their

    influence with relation to functionaries sharing in the power of patronage.

    II To those may be added, as not comprised in the class of

    functionaries.

    II. Merchants, Manufacturers and Artisans enjoying or expecting

    emolument, in the way of encrease of trade or otherwise from any prohibitory,

    restrictive, or other anti-commercial regulations, imposed or expected to be imposed,

    upon Ultramaria or any part of it.

    16. D o, engaged in the production, importation or

    such of any of the articles, the use or consumption of which will be or will be expected

    to be, encreased by preparation for eventual war, against or on account of, any part of

    Ultramaria.

    17. Political Writers or Orators expecting emolument or d o expectation by advocating the claim of dominion over Ultramaria.

    1821 Feb. 20

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    18. In Ultramaria itself all such persons, of whatever class and rank,

    to whom it may happen to stand indebted, or to regard themselves as standing indebted,

    or to be in expectation of standing indebted, for any share of emolument, power or

    destruction, from the possession or the claims of Spanish dominion or influence in

    Ultramaria.

    II. In case of dispute, and in proportion to the extent of it, may be

    added, in respect of the addition produced by war to the quantity of the patronage, all

    the above fourteen classes: with no other exception than that of Class 9 th composed of the Clergy.

    Also the mercantile Class N o 16 in respect of the

    addition made by actual war to the quantity of war articles, the demand for which cannot

    but be kept up by the state of constant preparation, realizing from the continuance of

    the dominion, or of the claim to it, even though no actual dispute should in the event

    have place.

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    Interests concerned

    Against the mass of interest, sinister interest as it surely may be

    denominated, at any rate in so far as its tendencey is to give encrease by expence to

    fired[?] military service and in both ways to the mass of public burthens may be set the

    mass of interests to which the dominion or claim in question may, in itself or in their

    eyes, be adverse:- /detrimental:-/ those are the interests of those classes, at whose

    expence in any extraordinary proportion it may happen to the claim to be pursued.

    There are two sources, and from which above, from which, any expenditure

    emplyed in the support of the dominion or claim in question is capable of being derived.

    These are taxation and retrenchment.

    If there by any persons, and in particular any public functionaries, in

    whose eyes the class to which they belong will appear to be in any particular manner or

    degree exposed by the claim in question to loss in either of those shapes, these will

    accordingly have in so far a particular interest adverse to the claim in question: a

    particular interest, which stands in opposition to their above merits and sinister

    interest, will, by the amount of its force, make a proportion additional to the force of

    the universal and uniformly legitimate interest of the whole community. In the instance,

    if each person so circumstanced, according as in his eyes, the value of his particular

    and sinister interest on the one hand, or on the other hand the value of his legitimate

    though particular interest, added to that of his share in the universal interest is the

    gratis, will be the part he takes, as to the given, support for the claim in question,

    or which in /making/ opposition to it.

    1821 Feb. 21

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    '.1. Interests concerned.

    The worse the state of the /a/ government is in respect of economy, the

    more decided is the impracticability of providing for the difference between existing

    suppliers and indispensable exigences, by additional taxation: in the same proportion

    therefore has place the necessity of having recourse to retrenchment.

    This considered, the following are the classes of functionaries, the

    pecuniary provision for which will naturally present itself as being, in the nature of

    the case, in the greatest degree susceptible of retrenchment: and whose interest, in

    proportion as a decision has place that retrenchmetn is the means f supply that can not

    but be resorted to for the satisfaction fo the exigencies in question, will be

    acknowledged even by themselves to stand in this respect in coincidence with, and will

    operate in support of the universal interest. For this kind may be referred

    I The King, her family, and houshold, including the [...?] of all ranks

    receiving payment for personal services, rendered or supposed to be rendered, to [...?]

    or [...?].

    II. The Clergy. III. The Public Creditors: In relation to each of these

    Classes, considered in an extraordinary degree exposed to suffer from retrenchment, a

    free observation may here be not without this use. 1. As to the King, and his personal

    dependents as justmentioned.

    That, considered with reference to the universal interest the expence

    belonging to this kind is not, in any part of it necessary to the king, nor yet to the

    well-being, of government, as is demonstrated by this circumstance that in the

    Anglo-American United States not a particle of it has place: and beyond possibility of

    critislation[?], in that cluster of two and twenty representative democracies, the

    people, in so far as depends upon the nature of the government are in a state of

    felicity, not to be matched in any other country in any age. If therefore the usefulness

    of the part of the official establishmetn to the whole value taken together were the

    only consideration to be adverted to, here is a mass of constant expenditure, from which

    not merely might ample retrenchment be made, but of which, according to the above

    principles, were these the only ones that bore upon the subject, the entire aggregate

    might be [...?] off with indisputable advantage - and without detriment in any

    shape.
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    Spaniards! It is by the view of a conflict of this sort in some of

    the most influential breasts, that the demand for this Letter has been suggested. Two

    of the ruling and most highly influential situations you will see, in each of which,

    while you will see the functionary acting under the conjunct influence of two

    mutually repugnant: the one a perpetual one, acting in support of the claim in

    question, and thence if my view of the subject is the correct one, acting in

    opposition to your interests: the other an incidental and temporary interest, acting

    in opposition to the claim, and thence in favour of your interest; the former

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    personal dependencies 2. That of the Ecclesiastical order. The sinister interest is

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    exigencies of the state for a sacrifice to be made of the particular interests of

    these same privileged orders in respect of money, to be made of course at the expence

    of those particular interests at the expence of which it may be affected with least

    detriment to the universal interest.

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    to this great question there is but one interest, and that in alliance with yours:

    the situation of the Public Creditor. Unhappily, to this

    situation no such power stands attached as is comparable to

    that of the two others.

    Not only so, but in the instance of every individual, is the

    aggregate of his interests composed of and thus distinguishable into particular

    interests, each one of them liable to be in a state of repugnance to every other.

    Accordingly, scarce a day in his life, in which the breast of each individual is not

    the theatre of a confict between repugnant interests. Take for example pecuniary

    interest in the aggregate, and the interest corresponding to the gratification sought

    by the expenditure of each one of the several sums disbersed.

    Spaniards!