18 Dec r 1806

Scotch Reform /Evidence/

To L d Grenville

'. People or Lawyers

Lawyer. Why no; perhaps not:- but do you consider how much money that would cost?

Non Lawyer. Consider? Oh yes: and so did the legislation [...?] that instance, when they gave all that money instead for fees. But when you talk of money /in [...?] of money/, pray how much more is ,6,000 a year where taken from people of all descriptions, afflicted and unafflicted together, then[/] taken from the afflicted why? But I will not /Not that I mean to/ press you for an answer now - there is a man who has so[?] written a pamphlet upon the subject - to his pamphlet I will beg you to look /in his pamphlet you may read more about this to refer you/ if you think it worth your while. +Protest against Law [...?].

Lawyer - Well: we[?] shan't differ much about this: but then there remains the professional branch's /in number/ 50 times as many, not to say a hundred, or a thousand: would you have[?] there[?] too have [...?]?

Non-Lawyer. Yes: when they can show equal cause for it: But pray what is it they are Guardians of? of their own many, yes, whence they have got it: of one many[?], yes, after it is become made[?] theirs, not before I believe[?]: and how stands the matter with regard to laws and liberties? When liberty /Liberty/ is in question, /if/ when you have no longer to defend it /law it is because/, you have another to attack it /law/: late[?] among both lawyers, liberty /Liberty/ is at least as well off as if she had nothing[?] [...?] saving so much money /not to speak of the money saved, with the et ceteras/.

Lawyer -  Add necessity of respectabilty in professional [...?] - English Lawyers more so than any other

Non-Lawyer - [...?] part of [...?] English Lawyers are to English Non-Lawyers as [...?] Lawyers to [...?] non-Lawyers and if is necessary there will always be more [...?] than [...?].